Iran War | Political & Economic Impacts

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Calheel said:
If it makes you feel any better, this would sink Trump’s presidency and turn him into Jimmy Carter II.
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What did Jimmy Carter ever do to deserve that insult? He was a better president and a better man.

Would you like to explain our winning position and why we should double down or just keep saying thoughtless things?
 
Mundial said:
The Soviets er I mean Russians and the Chinese would pour supplies and material into the area in an effort to bog down the US and prolong the conflict. It would almost certainly draw in jihadists from all over the region looking for a chance to kill Americans and possibly Israelis. The risks are incredibly high and we would be going it alone this time (so far anyway).
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They wouldn’t be able to fly or ship supplies in, and ground transportation would risk getting bombed.
 
finesse said:
What did Jimmy Carter ever do to deserve that insult? He was a better president and a better man.

Would you like to explain our winning position and why we should double down or just keep saying thoughtless things?
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Jimmy Carter lost the ability to influence democratic politicians because he became so unpopular in 1979 and 1980.

Likewise, if Trump gets into a ground war in Iran, it will burn all of his political support in America and make him a feckless president for 2027-2028.
 
Calheel said:
Jimmy Carter lost the ability to influence democratic politicians because he became so unpopular in 1979 and 1980.

Likewise, if Trump gets into a ground war in Iran, it will burn all of his political support in America and make him a feckless president for 2027-2028.
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It's still a terrible comparison in numerous ways.

What was it you said winning was going to be here?
 
finesse said:
It's still a terrible comparison in numerous ways.

What was it you said winning was going to be here?
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The comparison was not based on morals or presidential quality. Solely as a statement of political power.

Jimmy Carter was the least powerful president of my lifetime and Trump has been the most powerful.

It is extremely important to the health of our democracy that Trump loses support and power. A ground war in Iran would likely do the trick.
 
Calheel said:
The comparison was not based on morals or presidential quality. Solely as a statement of political power.

Jimmy Carter was the least powerful president of my lifetime and Trump has been the most powerful.

It is extremely important to the health of our democracy that Trump loses support and power. A ground war in Iran would likely do the trick.
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As much as I despise Trump if it takes the deaths of Americans in useless foreign wars to get him out of power, that's not an America worth dying for.
 
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Trump is drawn to the idea of seizing Kharg Island outright because it would constitute "an economic knockout of the regime" — essentially defunding Tehran, a U.S. official told Axios' Marc Caputo and Barak Ravid.

Doing so, however, could trigger retaliatory Iranian strikes against oil facilities and pipelines across Gulf countries, particularly Saudi Arabia.
"There are big risks. There are big rewards. The president isn't there yet and we're not saying he will be," the official said.

Kharg Island: What to know about Iran oil hub amid Trump war threats, attacks https://share.google/vkFUNge3bvrA6wLei
 
“While the U.S. administration has touted the idea of insurance guarantees and naval escorts, neither has materialized yet,” Patterson noted.

He added that escorting commercial vessels through the Strait of Hormuz would leave naval ships vulnerable to attack, so the U.S. may hold off from such action until it feels that Iran’s ability to launch attacks on vessels has been eroded.

Oil jumps over 2% as doubts linger over U.S.-backed plan to protect Strait of Hormuz shipping

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Oil jumps over 2% as doubts linger over U.S.-backed plan to protect Strait of Hormuz shipping

Oil prices jumped over 2% on Tuesday as uncertainty lingered over a U.S.-led coalition to protect shipping through the Strait of Hormuz.
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The what's going on with shipping channel reported something interesting. There has recently been a few outgoing oil tankers to go thru the Strait. But to do so they veer over to Iranian waters between Iran's coast and a small Island. In other words so the Iranians can check them out and let them have safe passage thru the Strait.

That would appear to give Iran control of the Strait.
 
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