Iran War | Politics & Domestic Impacts

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Thought it might be worth parsing out discussion of the political ramifications of the US/Israeli attacks on Iran versus the news of attacks/counter-attacks.

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Par for the course. Bush after 9/11.

  • Diversion of Special Forces: As plans for the Iraq war accelerated in 2002, elite units from the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) and CIA teams—previously focused on hunting al-Qaeda in Afghanistan—were shifted to prepare for the Iraq invasion.
  • Impact on Afghanistan: This reallocation of resources created a security vacuum in Afghanistan, allowing the Taliban and other armed groups to regroup in the south and east, setting the stage for their comeback.
  • Targeting Iraq: Elite forces, including Army Special Forces from the 5th and 10th Special Forces Groups, were moved to the region to work with the Kurdish Peshmerga and prepare for "Operation Iraqi Freedom".
 
BlooVooDoo said:
Maybe he didn’t want “experts” doling out advice/intel that was contradictory to other voices?
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I appreciate your justified snark but it really is mind boggling incompetence — who fires an entire team of experts with experience protecting Americans at home and abroad from Iranian -backed terrorist attacks immediately ahead of a planned attack on Iran????
 
nycfan said:
I appreciate your justified snark but it really is mind boggling incompetence — who fires an entire team of experts with experience protecting Americans at home and abroad from Iranian -backed terrorist attacks immediately ahead of a planned attack on Iran????
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It wasn’t just snark. This administration has repeatedly shown a willingness to fire experts at the slightest hint of disagreement. Competence is a virtue subordinate to party line loyalty.
 
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This argument — that the U.S. attacked Iran b/c Israel was going to do so regardless — has many different political implications but I’m struggling for one that is positive.

1) It can be seen as weird preemptive blame-shifting meat for a vocal part of the MAGA base — the Jews made us do it.

2) It sounds incredibly weak — we really had no way of convincing Israel not to attack Iran now? Really? Who is in charge then, b/c it sounds like Bibi is making the decisions what to do and how long and at what cost.

3) It makes the Biden Administration foreign policy team look more accomplished in retrospect — at least to some extent, they were able to keep Bibi on a leash. (Which is not meant to let them off the hook for not changing course once the extent of Israeli genocidal policy in Gaza became evident.)

Help me out. How is this justification positive for the Trump team? Sincerely. I don’t get how anyone who heard this as a proposed justification or talking point said yeah, that’s the ticket.
 
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