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June 21, 2025, 8:06 p.m. ETJust now
David E. Sanger
By the time U.S. aircraft bombed the Natanz nuclear site, the International Atomic Energy Agency assessed that all the centrifuges in its hall, about 100 feet underground, had been knocked out by Israel’s attack on the electrical system that fed the machines, which spin at supersonic speeds. But the U.S. bombs would have likely done far more damage to the facility, the same one that the Bush and Obama administrations hit more than 15 years ago in the Stuxnet cyber attack. That covert attack was undertaken because both Bush and Obama considered bombing to be too risky.
David E. Sanger
By the time U.S. aircraft bombed the Natanz nuclear site, the International Atomic Energy Agency assessed that all the centrifuges in its hall, about 100 feet underground, had been knocked out by Israel’s attack on the electrical system that fed the machines, which spin at supersonic speeds. But the U.S. bombs would have likely done far more damage to the facility, the same one that the Bush and Obama administrations hit more than 15 years ago in the Stuxnet cyber attack. That covert attack was undertaken because both Bush and Obama considered bombing to be too risky.
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The attack on the sites is the first time since the Iranian revolution, in 1979, that the United States has sent its Air Force to strike major facilities inside the country, an act of war. But President Trump has now inserted the U.S. military directly into an open conflict with Iran, which a succession of American presidents, dating back to Jimmy Carter, tried to avoid. Mr. Trump made no effort in his Truth Social post to justify what administration officials said would be a pre-emptive attack, to keep Iran from a final race for the bomb.
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You know Lyndsey wouldn't be able to contain his erection on this.
Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina and one of the most vocal Iran defense hawks on Capitol Hill, celebrated the strike, saying in a social media post that it was “the right call.” Graham had been in regular contact with President Trump to argue in favor of strikes. In his post on Saturday, he said, “The regime deserves it.”
Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina and one of the most vocal Iran defense hawks on Capitol Hill, celebrated the strike, saying in a social media post that it was “the right call.” Graham had been in regular contact with President Trump to argue in favor of strikes. In his post on Saturday, he said, “The regime deserves it.”
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A U.S. official said that six B-2 bombers dropped a dozen 30,000-pound bunker buster bombs on the Fordo nuclear site, which lies deep underground, and Navy submarines fired 30 TLAM cruise missiles at the Natanz and Isfahan sites. One B-2 also dropped two bunker busters on Natanz, according to the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss military operations.
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and this dickhead
Senator John Fetterman of Pennsylvania, whose unqualified support for Israel has put him at odds with other members of his party, was one of the few Democrats to offer an immediate statement of support. He wrote on social media that the military action “was the correct move.”
“Iran is the world’s leading sponsor of terrorism and cannot have nuclear capabilities,” Mr. Fetterman added. “I’m grateful for and salute the finest military in the world.”
Senator John Fetterman of Pennsylvania, whose unqualified support for Israel has put him at odds with other members of his party, was one of the few Democrats to offer an immediate statement of support. He wrote on social media that the military action “was the correct move.”
“Iran is the world’s leading sponsor of terrorism and cannot have nuclear capabilities,” Mr. Fetterman added. “I’m grateful for and salute the finest military in the world.”
gtyellowjacket
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Very skeptical. Went to the Palestinian news site and couldn't find an article or editorial about Hamas killing people looking for food. I did find the picture of the guy pointing a gun at the people wearing blindfolds. The caption wasn't about collaborators. It was "
Palestinian Authority Daily: Hamas Is Murdering Civilians Who Come To The Gaza Aid Distribution Centers
In its June 19, 2025 editorial, the Palestinian Authority Al-Hayat Al-Jadida daily accused Hamas of murdering Gaza residents trying to get to the American food aid distribution centers established in the Gaza strip. According to the article, "death squads" from Hamas's Al-Sahm unit[1] hunt down...www.memri.org
The resistance carries out "revolutionary death sentences" against those involved in the robbery of aid convoys."
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Now that anyone can translate, Israeli propaganda will need to step up their game.
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This is a U.S. run site, with a very distinguished board of former U.S. foreign policy experts (albeit founded by a former Israeli intel officer). They could well be pumping out propaganda in concert with Israel and others, but it is not directly an Israeli propaganda operation. But it is decidedly pro-Israel.
gtyellowjacket
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Can't argue with that board. Those guys are big time. Just can't find anything like they're describing in their post either the picture saying Hamas is shooting collaborators or the editorial they mentioned Hamas is shooting people trying to get food.
If they are somehow making the claim that Hamas is shooting people trying to get food who are thieves, I think that's a pretty tortured interpretation of the column and certainly detracts from their credibility. Would it have been that hard for them to provide a link so we can read it for ourselves?
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Not denying your original post and highly disappointed to read that. It is a site I read on background but don’t post here because it has obvious bias but is a way to get ME news (or direction to look up other accounts of what they cover at Al Jazeera etc.). Of course the first time I post something from there it is sketchy. I will take down the link.
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Don't do it because of my comment. I'm not denying that the Palestinian editorial is there or maybe it was there and they took it down. I just couldn't find it, and the site is not really that big. I did see that picture with a caption that did not have anything to do with collaborators. I guess it's possible the Palestinian newspaper could have changed it but just seems unlikely.
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The value of the ceasefire is too great to let the one Iranian attack be the end of the pursuit of it. Israel and the US should try its best to move forward and give Iran another shot at it.
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Anyone else notice Trumpets in their area taking down their Trump signs and flags? I have
MOUNTAINH33L
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Sadly, no. I live in WNC. They still worship Dear Leader around these parts. Bigly.
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I can't wait to hear the justification for this from the Israeli morality police.
Mulberry Heel
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Same here. Whenever I go to my old hometown in the NC foothills I still see loads of homes and cars sporting Trump flags, MAGA bumper stickers, the works. I also still see some homes in my suburban neighborhood in the NC piedmont flying Trump flags of various kinds, although I will say the number of such homes - and the number of vehicles with Trump paraphernalia - has decreased somewhat in my suburban area, which is probably to be expected since the election is long over. But in rural areas I've driven through MAGA still seems as strong and loud and proud as ever.