Israel Hamas War, West Bank, Etc. | Hostilities resume

[nycfan]

 

[2ManyBlueCups]

Terrorists may be a lot of things, but stupidly hanging out in an open field when the opponent has satellites and sophisticated long-range weaponry is not one of them. Hezbollah is not more noble than Hamas. It simply has geographical advantages in how it wages war.

Right, which is why Hamas should have shifted its strategies. Unless, as I am arguing, a large amount of Palestinian civilian deaths is exactly what they are aiming for.

 

[Calheel]

Right, which is why Hamas should have shifted its strategies. Unless, as I am arguing, a large amount of Palestinian civilian deaths is exactly what they are aiming for.

What strategy would you advocate Hamas follow?

 

[2ManyBlueCups]

What strategy would you advocate Hamas follow?

Maybe less "death to Jews" and more "let's try to make things better for Palestinians". Maybe denounce terrorism and start actually progressing towards being able to work with the international community. But, if they don't want to do that, maybe guerilla attacks against IDF soldiers/equipment as opposed to the rocket launches and the terror attacks against Israeli civilians.

 

[Calheel]

Maybe less "death to Jews" and more "let's try to make things better for Palestinians". Maybe denounce terrorism and start actually progressing towards being able to work with the international community. But, if they don't want to do that, maybe guerilla attacks against IDF soldiers/equipment as opposed to the rocket launches and the terror attacks against Israeli civilians.

No offense to you, but I think your career as a terrorist strategist would likely not advance very far.

 

[2ManyBlueCups]

No offense to you, but I think your career as a terrorist strategist would likely not advance very far.

I'm glad that I'm not qualified for that career. I don't think their current guy is either, as their strategy over the past few years has only made things that much worse in Gaza.

 

[Calheel]

I'm glad that I'm not qualified for that career. I don't think their current guy is either, as their strategy over the past few years has only made things that much worse in Gaza.

I dunno. Hamas seems to be more popular than ever -- especially at Western universities. Now they just have to impact actual policy makers, which is a tougher nut to crack. Of course, Netanyahu has been the ideal business partner for them.

 

[2ManyBlueCups]

I dunno. Hamas seems to be more popular than ever -- especially at Western universities. Now they just have to impact actual policy makers, which is a tougher nut to crack. Of course, Netanyahu has been the ideal business partner for them.

I'm not so sure about that. The NYT article I posted a few pages back stated that Hamas is essentially begging someone else to run Gaza for them and is severely weakened (although not completely defeated).

 

[Batt Boy]

Fatah and Hamas singed a deal, brokered by China, for a "unity" government. Neither can be eradicated. The new entity will have a tough job, even if the IDF leaves them alone due to corruption alone. Lots of money to be made.

 

[Patb78]

Just saw an article that said the polio vaccine rollout in Gaza is on hold because of IDF evacuation orders. If this is indeed true, it is beyond unconscionable. I am old enough to remember children with polio. Friends of my parents when I was a kid had a daughter in an iron lung. They were able to afford in home care. I remember going into her room and seeing her in the lung. A woman I worked with caught it but was lucky. It just crippled her right harm. There is no excuse for this to happen. It just is beyond comprehension.

 

[TarSpiel]

You're asking me a question that I don't think either one of us have the answer to.

You keep evading the question, which is pretty much what I expected.

One of Your problems is that you put all Palestinians in the same group as the worst elements of Hamas. It is either intellectually lazy, intellectually dishonest, or both. But, like I said, pretty much par for the course.

 

[RaiGuy]

Just saw an article that said the polio vaccine rollout in Gaza is on hold because of IDF evacuation orders. If this is indeed true, it is beyond unconscionable. I am old enough to remember children with polio. Friends of my parents when I was a kid had a daughter in an iron lung. They were able to afford in home care. I remember going into her room and seeing her in the lung. A woman I worked with caught it but was lucky. It just crippled her right harm. There is no excuse for this to happen. It just is beyond comprehension.

Sadly, one child is already paralyzed by polio

A 10-month-old Palestinian baby suddenly stopped crawling. Polio had struck Gaza

Ten-month-old Abdel-Rahman Abu El-Jedian is the first confirmed case of polio in Gaza and he's now paralyzed in the leg.

apnews.com

 

[Patb78]

Sadly, one child is already paralyzed by polio

A 10-month-old Palestinian baby suddenly stopped crawling. Polio had struck Gaza

Ten-month-old Abdel-Rahman Abu El-Jedian is the first confirmed case of polio in Gaza and he's now paralyzed in the leg.

apnews.com

I remember my mother telling me that when she heard the vaccine had been developed and was now available she sat down and cried because she knew I wouldn’t be getting it. To live in a time where the vaccine is a tried and true way to prevent children from getting this terrible disease, and because of the actions of the IDF they can’t get it, is mind boggling.

 

[Geisterfahrer]

Ben Givr is an evil man.

 

[2ManyBlueCups]

You keep evading the question, which is pretty much what I expected.

One of Your problems is that you put all Palestinians in the same group as the worst elements of Hamas. It is either intellectually lazy, intellectually dishonest, or both. But, like I said, pretty much par for the course.

I'm actually doing the opposite. I've stated numerous times that Hamas is the worst thing to happen to Palestinians, because Hamas uses them as bait and cannon fodder. The Palestinian civilians are victims of Hamas, and life will get better for them whenever Hamas is removed from power.

 

[Batt Boy]

great news Hostage rescued by Israel 'barely saw daylight'

 

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Hundreds of Israeli troops mounted major overnight raids in the occupied West Bank, Israeli officials said Wednesday, targeting Palestinian militants after what they called months of rising attacks. At least nine people were killed, and an Israeli military official said the operation was continuing.

The operation followed months of escalating Israeli raids in the occupied territory, where nearly three million Palestinians live under Israeli military rule. Israel has arrested thousands of Palestinians suspected of involvement in armed groups since the Hamas-led Oct. 7 attacks, an increasingly deadly campaign that has unfolded alongside its war against Hamas in Gaza.

 

[nycfan]

 

[RaiGuy]

Hundreds of Israeli troops mounted major overnight raids in the occupied West Bank, Israeli officials said Wednesday, targeting Palestinian militants after what they called months of rising attacks. At least nine people were killed, and an Israeli military official said the operation was continuing.

The operation followed months of escalating Israeli raids in the occupied territory, where nearly three million Palestinians live under Israeli military rule. Israel has arrested thousands of Palestinians suspected of involvement in armed groups since the Hamas-led Oct. 7 attacks, an increasingly deadly campaign that has unfolded alongside its war against Hamas in Gaza.

Sadly, no one will care about this. However, once it gets bad enough and the Palestinians in the West Bank start fighting back, then Israel will label them terrorist and start it's bombing campaign there

 

[Batt Boy]

Sadly, no one will care about this. However, once it gets bad enough and the Palestinians in the West Bank start fighting back, then Israel will label them terrorist and start it's bombing campaign there

They are fighting back. This was specifically targeted to eliminate Jenin Brigade middle commanders. It will get worse before it gets better in Judea and Samaria for all involved.