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HintonJamesHeel said:
Folks go to the extreme when they get angry. What’s in everyone face in this country is folks taking over university buildings, wearing masks, and destroying property. When someone sees that and is uninformed, they ask who is that? They are protesting Israel. Then people who don’t know the context and just want to live their lives in Oklahoma or whatever say I’m against those people.
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True, but the pro-Israel support has been going on for years. The example of the Texas contractor that was denied a job happened 6-7 years ago.
 
HintonJamesHeel said:
Folks go to the extreme when they get angry. What’s in everyone face in this country is folks taking over university buildings, wearing masks, and destroying property. When someone sees that and is uninformed, they ask who is that? They are protesting Israel. Then people who don’t know the context and just want to live their lives in Oklahoma or whatever say I’m against those people.
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There are damn good reasons for people to be protesting Israel. The current Israeli government is an abomination. Israelis protest their shitty government regularly without being called antisemitic.
 
farce© said:
There are damn good reasons for people to be protesting Israel. The current Israeli government is an abomination. Israelis protest their shitty government regularly without being called antisemitic.
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Again - 90% of Americans don’t know Americans politics well. They sure as hell don’t know Israel and Palestine. They see a group destroying buildings and wearing masks looking intimidating and just want to be against that.
 
HintonJamesHeel said:
Yes. Vandalism is destroying building. In January, protestors added cement to the sewage system and destroyed the plumbing. That’s destroying buildings.
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Fans of winning (and sometimes losing) teams cause damage in the aftermath, yet that doesn’t get the same response.
 
RaiGuy said:
Fans of winning (and sometimes losing) teams cause damage in the aftermath, yet that doesn’t get the same response.
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Not the same and you know that. Violently attacking something out of rage is different than drunkenly going too far while partying.
 
HintonJamesHeel said:
Yes. Vandalism is destroying building. In January, protestors added cement to the sewage system and destroyed the plumbing. That’s destroying buildings.
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At Columbia? Toilets were clogged in the women's rooms on four floors of the building. It was repaired overnight and ready for service the next day. While that is regrettable and punishable, it hardly qualifies as "destroying the building." You got anything else? Is graffiti "destroying buildings?"
 
ZZLPHeels said:
Not the same and you know that. Violently attacking something out of rage is different than drunkenly going too far while partying.
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Ah ok, maybe next time the protestors should get drunk and then their actions would be excusable.
 
HintonJamesHeel said:
lol
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I wouldn't accuse you of propaganda intent, but if we leave aside the pejorative, he's right, isn't he? You know that damaging plumbing isn't destroying a building. You were exaggerating and you got called out, yes? I mean, that happens. If you fess up, it's a nothing. There was one time I said something like "if Ben Simmons could develop a reliable jump shot, he could be one of the great players in recent memory" and well, yeah.

But doubling down on the exaggeration seems ill-advised. I mean, re: Simmons, I did say *if*, and since he hasn't I'm not technically wrong. I didn't predict what would happen if he didn't. Still, probably the better response would be, yeah I got a bit enthusiastic there, or if I had to avoid stepping all the way down, I didn't foresee he would basically quit playing basketball.
 
tarheelbillie said:
Surprise, surprise! They can... they do. Seems we officially adopted Israel in 1948. Canada to be state #51? Can't happen... slot not available.
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Israel’s way too independent and out-of-control to be the 51st state.

More like a badly spoiled child; say Veruca Salt or Mike Teavee from “Charlie and the Chocolate Factory” or Lotho Sackville-Baggins from LoTR.
 
Zoo_View said:
Israel’s way too independent and out-of-control to be the 51st state.

More like a badly spoiled child; say Veruca Salt or Mike Teavee from “Charlie and the Chocolate Factory” or Lotho Sackville-Baggins from LoTR.
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The dynamics that caused the attack on the Israeli hostages are still trending negatively for Palestinians. Saudis Arabia was close to embracing Israel before the attack and the global dynamics now don’t show Saudis Arabia is looking to oppose the Israel and the US. In fact, the alliance is growing closer.
 
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