Israel launches attack on Iran | US bombs Iran nuke sites

WaynetheDrain said:
If Israel had done such a great job weakening Iran, why did we need to get involved? Why not just let them finish the job? We could have had the same result without the need to dirty our hands.
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This has been answered several times. We are the only country with the bunker busting bombs needed to complete this mission.
 
nycfan said:
I think it is one possible risk but it is far from a certainty.
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Sure...the folks who were so insane that they had to be attacked to prevent their ultimate use of doomsday weapons against us are just gonna back away from this sort of thing.

Even the most ardent believers within Iran that their government should be overthrown are waking up today despising America far more than they otherwise would have. They will strike and they will strike hard. They'll hit the worldwide petroleum economy first. If they are as crazy as you believe, they will destroy their own oil fields and launch strikes against those of surrounding nations. After all...they're suicidal and crazy right?

This justification nonsense is lunacy.

We have no fucking business attacking other sovereign nations and we absolutely will pay a heavy price for doing so.
 
Will be interesting to see how his fans take to this...
Nothing says focus on America like voluntary jumping into a war that is none of our business
 
wmheel1287 said:
There will be major escalation from here. Tens of thousands of Americans both in and out of uniform will die. The economy will be battered heavily.
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ZZLPHeels said:
This has been answered several times. We are the only country with the bunker busting bombs needed to complete this mission.
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What if they moved the stuff
ZZLPHeels said:
None of this will happen. Iran is completely powerless.
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They have terrorists all around the world. Including on US soil. Don’t be naive.
 
Iran might not be able to completely close the Straits of Hormuz with mines; but, it can wreak havoc.

Part of Iran’s southern coastline wraps around the cape opposite it. Iran has hundreds of miles of coastline on the Persian Gulf and Straits of Hormuz.
 
wmheel1287 said:
You're a goddamed fool if you think any nation with the history, populace, and wealth of Iran is going to be "powerless".
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Have you not been following the news over the past few months? Do you think they are letting Israel completely dominate them by choice? Maybe they are sadists? Of course not. Their military has no offensive capabilities left. Their proxies - namely Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis, and Syria - are all effectively dismantled. We have total air superiority over all of Iran. Their launchers have nearly all been eliminated. The most they can do is rage on Twitter, which is exactly what they have been doing. They are done.

In the GWOT, which lasted over 20 years and involved us actually invading two countries, we lost approximately 7,500 troops. We aren't going to lose "tens of thousands" of troops from an airstrike on a defenseless enemy unless they all simultaneously die of boredom while waiting for Iran to respond.
 
Zoo_View said:
Iran might not be able to completely close the Straits of Hormuz with mines; but, it can wreak havoc.

Part of Iran’s southern coastline wraps around the cape opposite it. Iran has hundreds of miles of coastline on the Persian Gulf and Straits of Hormuz.
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One of the many things I’ll be watching closely over the next few days is the response from the emirates on the other side of the gulf. This could be catastrophic for them. And they tend to do whatever is required to avoid catastrophe.
 
theel4life said:
What if they moved the stuff

They have terrorists all around the world. Including on US soil. Don’t be naive.
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They've had terrorists all around the world. Including on US soil. Doesn't matter.

Could they attack us? Sure. Could they kill a dozen people, or dozens of people? Sure. But we've had that exact same threat for nearly 30 years now.
 
dukeman92 said:
Israel should have considered that before starting a war they couldn’t finish. But Netanyahu knew he could goad Trump into doing his bidding.

We have a weak, stupid, completely incompetent president.
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Agree on the last part, but Israel did exactly what it needed to do. Iran's nuclear capabilities have been set back substantially with very limited casualties in return. Iran was so weak that, as another poster put it, it would have been almost criminal not to take advantage of this opportunity. They are likely never going to be weaker than they are right now.
 
HintonJamesHeel said:
People getting worked up that Iran wasn’t close to a nuke are missing the point. Let it play out. If there’s no escalation from here, this strike was a total success.
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You probably believed the yellowcake story and believed Iraq had WMD, didn't you?
 
ZZLPHeels said:
They've had terrorists all around the world. Including on US soil. Doesn't matter.

Could they attack us? Sure. Could they kill a dozen people, or dozens of people? Sure. But we've had that exact same threat for nearly 30 years now.
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Not true. The potential may be roughly the same, but the actual threat is much higher after last night.
 
My son says Iran’s parliament has voted to close the Strait but the final decision doesn’t rest with that body. I don’t have a grasp of Iranian governmental structure so not sure if this is just saber rattling or it’s going to happen.
 


I admit I expected more of a crater but this seems like a giant drill hole.

It seems like human intel from the site will be necessary to understand how effective it was.
 
lawtig02 said:
Not true. The potential may be roughly the same, but the actual threat is much higher after last night.
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Fair, but that is a calculated risk that I'm fine with. Losing a handful of people in a terrorist attack would be horrible but it would pale in comparison to the prospect of losing a million people due to a nuclear detonation 10 years from now that we could easily have prevented.
 
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