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Israel launches attack on Iran | US bombs Iran nuke sites

Again, what is to keep them from being destructive to America even if Iran's own facilities are incapacitated. We know they're somewhat advanced in cyber-warfare. 9/11 showed us that it doesn't take much to inflict harm.

What's the end game after we're done dropping bombs and shooting missiles (however long that takes)? We tried regime change in Iraq and that gave us Isis. We're still in Iraq. We basically stalemated with the Taliban in Afghanistan and Iran is TWICE as large as Afghanistan.
I think the world is safer if a Muslim terrorist country doesn't have a nuke and I don't mind if a US bomb is the final straw that breaks the Fardow back to ensure that Iran doesn't have a nuke anytime soon and hopefully never.

If the US has to drop another bomb on Iran in 10 years, because they're close to being nuclear, I'll very likely be fine with that, also.
 
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I think the world is safer if a Muslim terrorist country doesn't have a nuke and I don't mind if a US bomb is the final straw that breaks the Fardow back to ensure that Iran doesn't have a nuke anytime soon and hopefully never.

If the US has to drop another bomb on Iran in 10 years, because they're close to being nuclear, I'll very likely be fine with that, also.
Pakistan sheltered the biggest terrorist of all time. They have the bomb. I don't think you can use that as justification for going to war.
 


The Iraq war was definitely based on questionable (intentionally generated) intel, but that was not any kind of pre-nuclear age. [Also, it is hardly worth arguing anymore but Trump manufactured most of his claims of opposing the Iraq war at the time, inasmuch as anyone cared what he thought then anyway.]
 


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[I actually think there are several key differences between the Iraq invasion debacle and the current situation, though I’m still glad I don’t have to decide what to do in the current case, but as far as Donalds seems concerned that N at the end of the name instead of a Q seems to be enough?]
 
And, Iran also bombed an Israeli hospital. They didn't bomb it because IDF is using it for cover, they just bombed it just 'cause.

 
On a side note, and not that terrorists care, but use of cluster bombs violates internal law.
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I guess it only violates international law when it's used against Israel
 
I agree. Have they been using them? Link?

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The United States has used cluster munitions with devastating consequences in Southeast Asia (Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam) in the 1960s and 1970s, the Persian Gulf (Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia) in 1991, the former Yugoslavia (now Serbia, Montenegro, and Kosovo) in 1999, Afghanistan in 2001 and 2002, Iraq in 2003, and--most recently--Yemen in December 2009. US-supplied cluster munitions have been used in combat by Israel in Lebanon and Syria, by Morocco in the Western Sahara, by the UK and the Netherlands in the former Yugoslavia, and by the UK in Iraq.
 

“… There is some relevant history here. In the early 1990s, Bill Clinton’s administration considered attacking North Korea’s nuclear programme when it was vulnerable and still in its early stages. Ultimately, the US held off, fearing that such an attack could trigger a second Korean war, one that would result in tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of South Korean and American casualties. It was an understandable decision, but came with a significant long-term cost. Today, North Korea has dozens of nuclear weapons along with the intercontinental ballistic missiles to deliver them as far as the US mainland.

The downside of a US attack on Iran is not comparable, in that Iran cannot do much more against Israel than it is already doing. But Iran could attack the 40,000 US forces stationed throughout the region. Tehran could also widen the war, choosing to threaten its recently improved relations with the Gulf states and attack its Arab neighbours, in the process driving up world energy prices.

An American strike on Fordow would also weaken the international norm against preventive military attacks, something Russia, China and North Korea might then choose to emulate. It would reduce America’s ability to respond effectively to military challenges elsewhere. It would more closely align the US with a deeply unpopular Israeli prime minister whose policies in Gaza and the occupied West Bank have outraged much of the world.

And it is far from certain that a US attack will succeed if success is defined as destroying all that remains of Iran’s nuclear programme.

But allowing Fordow to survive makes it highly likely that Iran will manage sooner rather than later to produce nuclear weapons, something it is likely to see as essential in the wake of its failure to deter Israel in the current crisis….”
 

“… There is some relevant history here. In the early 1990s, Bill Clinton’s administration considered attacking North Korea’s nuclear programme when it was vulnerable and still in its early stages. Ultimately, the US held off, fearing that such an attack could trigger a second Korean war, one that would result in tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of South Korean and American casualties. It was an understandable decision, but came with a significant long-term cost. Today, North Korea has dozens of nuclear weapons along with the intercontinental ballistic missiles to deliver them as far as the US mainland.

The downside of a US attack on Iran is not comparable, in that Iran cannot do much more against Israel than it is already doing. But Iran could attack the 40,000 US forces stationed throughout the region. Tehran could also widen the war, choosing to threaten its recently improved relations with the Gulf states and attack its Arab neighbours, in the process driving up world energy prices.

An American strike on Fordow would also weaken the international norm against preventive military attacks, something Russia, China and North Korea might then choose to emulate. It would reduce America’s ability to respond effectively to military challenges elsewhere. It would more closely align the US with a deeply unpopular Israeli prime minister whose policies in Gaza and the occupied West Bank have outraged much of the world.

And it is far from certain that a US attack will succeed if success is defined as destroying all that remains of Iran’s nuclear programme.

But allowing Fordow to survive makes it highly likely that Iran will manage sooner rather than later to produce nuclear weapons, something it is likely to see as essential in the wake of its failure to deter Israel in the current crisis….”
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