Israel launches attack on Iran | US bombs Iran nuke sites

[milom98]

Alpha Males (Trump) > Beta Males (Biden).

Saying makeup wearing, YMCA fanboy Captain Bone Spurs is your ideal of a Alpha Male is..... peak Beta.

 

[HintonJamesHeel]

Good perspective for Iranian leader in US. Sounds like he is viewing this as a positive for the people of Iran.

Bay Area residents worried for friends, family in Iran following U.S. strikes on nuclear facilities

News of the U.S. becoming directly involved in the Israel-Iran confrontation has some Bay Area residents feeling the distance from their loved ones.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[ZZLPHeels]

You can reach any conclusion if you get to make up probabilities. I think the evidence strongly suggests that the odds of a nuclear Iran bombing Jerusalem is far, far less than 1%. Since nobody has ever used a nuke outside declared war, and that was 80 odd years ago, the odds of Iran breaking that streak despite its obvious irrationality has to be considered far less than 1%. It's infinitessimal.

Forgive me from citing Wikipedia, but you can see why Israel doesn't think that is a risk worth taking. See the section on "Destruction of Israel in Iranian policy." The threats made over the past couple of decades have been consistent and have been alarming.

Iran–Israel relations - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[ZZLPHeels]

Was this you?

As an0maly graciously pointed out, Iran was "less than a week" from being able to develop a nuclear weapon

Yes, and I also stated that I didn't buy that estimate.

 

[superrific]

Seems like projection, once again. And once again, this seems like a pretty straightforward statement:

At the Fordow plant, located near the city of Qom, the Iranians have enough centrifuges (including IR-6s, their more advanced type) and uranium hexafluoride gas to produce several nuclear weapons. They could probably produce enough weapon-grade (90 percent) enriched uranium for one nuclear weapon within five to six days.

I even made the portion in question bigger for you in case you missed it the first 3 times. Hope this helps.

That's interesting and all, but modern nuclear weapons are not made from uranium. I very much doubt Iran is trying to recreate the Hiroshima bomb, which was the only nuke I'm aware of that was made from enriched uranium. Fat Man was plutonium, as are pretty much every nuclear weapon produced these days. I think Pakistan has only assembled a uranium bomb but they have plutonium in reserve in case they are planning to actually use them.

North Korea uses plutonium, as do all Western countries and China.

 

[superrific]

Forgive me from citing Wikipedia, but you can see why Israel doesn't think that is a risk worth taking. See the section on "Destruction of Israel in Iranian policy." The threats made over the past couple of decades have been consistent and have been alarming.

Iran–Israel relations - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Yeah, over a couple of decades. That doesn't cut the way you think. You should hear the things North Korea says. It's all talk, and everyone knows it. It's an excuse for Iran to support its regional proxies.

 

[superrific]

Yes, and I also stated that I didn't buy that estimate.

Not in that post or another. Perhaps further down the line you retreated but if you want to know why people are ascribing this position to you, it might because you expressed it in two posts.

 

[Batt Boy]

Iran Expert Says U.S. News Networks Get the Iranian People All Wrong

Hooshang Amirahmadi argues that a different journalistic approach is needed as the U.S. bombs Iran

www.hollywoodreporter.com

 

[ZZLPHeels]

Not in that post or another. Perhaps further down the line you retreated but if you want to know why people are ascribing this position to you, it might because you expressed it in two posts.

I simply highlighted what the article said....the article that was posted by someone else. Yet that poster has not received any flack whatsoever for posting the article. Strange, really.

 

[Mulberry Heel]

The sooner we can move away from fossil fuels to renewable energy, the sooner we can banish the turd that is the Middle East to the dustbin.

All the more reason to push forward with moving to electric cars, among other things. But of course under Dear Leader we're moving backwards in that area, thus ensuring that we'll continue to remain hostage to the whims and endless feuds of various Middle Eastern powers.

 

[Bobfripp]

All the more reason to push forward with moving to electric cars, among other things. But of course under Dear Leader we're moving backwards in that area, thus ensuring that we'll continue to remain hostage to the whims and endless feuds of various Middle Eastern powers.

I suspect that the MAGAs want us to remain embroiled in the Middle East - that, and they don't give a shit about the environment or global warming.

 

[HandsonFire]

Vance doesn’t like Medvedev’s response so he chooses to distance Putin from the comment.

Is this real life? Damn he and Trump are a special kind of stupid or a special kind of compromised. Do they really think Putin is their friend, partner?

 

[Mulberry Heel]

So Iran has voted to move to block the Strait of Hormuz for the first time ever, apparently. Whether they are capable of doing so or not, it would appear that there are already consequences to our bombing of Iran. Would they have chosen to do this (or try to) if we didn't bomb them? Likely not.

 

[1moretimeagain]

So Iran has voted to move to block the Strait of Hormuz for the first time ever, apparently. Whether they are capable of doing so or not, it would appear that there are already consequences to our bombing of Iran. Would they have chosen to do this (or try to) if we didn't bomb them? Likely not.

The body that voted doesn’t have the authority to make that decision

 

[Mulberry Heel]

The body that voted doesn’t have the authority to make that decision

Yeah, it said another part of their government would make the final decision. It does seem as if they're going to be compelled to respond in some fashion, and this would certainly fit.

 

[Healing]

Yet that poster has not received any flack whatsoever for posting the article. Strange, really.

It’s not strange, at all.

So Iran has voted to move to block the Strait of Hormuz for the first time ever, apparently. Whether they are capable of doing so or not, it would appear that there are already consequences to our bombing of Iran. Would they have chosen to do this (or try to) if we didn't bomb them? Likely not.

I presume they have a well articulated and prepared plan to execute. They’re not idiots. They’ve long known Homuz is one of the substantial geopolitical and economic leverage points on the planet. Will Trump ramp up the violence at economic warfare?

ETA: I could also see the supreme leader sidestep the issue with US assurances that regime change will not occur.

 

[theel4life]

This is gonna get ugly isn’t it?

 

[ZZLPHeels]

It’s not strange, at all.

You're right. Unfortunate would have been the better word. Further confirmation that some people only see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear.

 

[ZZLPHeels]

This is gonna get ugly isn’t it?

No.

 

[Healing]

You're right. Unfortunate would have been the better word. Further confirmation that some people only see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear.

It’s not confirmation. It’s credibility.