Israel launches attack on Iran | US bombs Iran nuke sites


“… Americans disapprove of the strikes, 56% to 44%, according to the survey, with strong disapproval outpacing the share who strongly approve. Most distrust Trump’s decision-making on the use of force in Iran, with about 6 in 10 worried that the strikes will increase the Iranian threat to the US.

… Majorities of independents (60%) and Democrats (88%) disapprove of the decision to take military action in Iran. Republicans largely approve (82%). But just 44% of Republicans strongly approve of the airstrikes, far smaller than the group of Democrats who strongly disapprove (60%), perhaps reflecting that some in Trump’s coalition are broadly distrustful of military action abroad.…

Mistrust of Trump’s judgment is especially high among Democrats (88% of whom express little or no trust) and independents (62%), who also broadly say the president should be required to get congressional approval for any further military action in Iran (88% of Democrats and 67% of independents feel that way).

Republicans express more trust in the president, although that trust is also somewhat tempered: 51% say they have a great deal of trust in him to make the right decisions on the use of force with Iran, 37% a moderate amount. And the GOP divides over whether Trump ought to be required to get congressional approval for further action, with 39% saying he should be required to do so, 38% that he should not and 23% are not sure….”
 

“… Americans disapprove of the strikes, 56% to 44%, according to the survey, with strong disapproval outpacing the share who strongly approve. Most distrust Trump’s decision-making on the use of force in Iran, with about 6 in 10 worried that the strikes will increase the Iranian threat to the US.

… Majorities of independents (60%) and Democrats (88%) disapprove of the decision to take military action in Iran. Republicans largely approve (82%). But just 44% of Republicans strongly approve of the airstrikes, far smaller than the group of Democrats who strongly disapprove (60%), perhaps reflecting that some in Trump’s coalition are broadly distrustful of military action abroad.…”
This predates the ceasefire, so assuming the ceasefire holds, we’ll see how this evolves.
 
“We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don’t know what the fuck they’re doing” -DJT

I admit, I laughed when I read this.
 
A temporary ceasefire between Israel and Iran firing missiles at each other is not peace or an end to conflict. Not even close. Before Trumpites sprain their shoulders high-fiving and patting each other on the back, let's see if there is any real progress toward ending conflict in Gaza. Or Ukraine. Or replacing tariffs with significant trade agreements. Or reducing the national debt. Or any other campaign promises. This is a pleasant diversion and not much more.
Trump 2.0 TV: Our Little War... after last week's humiliating episode.
 
I reckon I am having a midday flareup of my TDS, but I tell you what, man, after Trump is no longer in office, I swear to all that is holy I am never, ever going to take for granted ever again a president – Republican or Democrat, I don’t care – who doesn’t tweet dramatic play-by-plays about military operations, troop movements, diplomatic negotiations, and trade conversations like a mentally ill teenager begging for validation and attention. It’s so unbelievably unbecoming and embarrassing for this great country of ours.
 
I reckon I am having a midday flareup of my TDS, but I tell you what, man, after Trump is no longer in office, I swear to all that is holy I am never, ever going to take for granted ever again a president – Republican or Democrat, I don’t care – who doesn’t tweet dramatic play-by-plays about military operations, troop movements, diplomatic negotiations, and trade conversations like a mentally ill teenager begging for validation and attention. It’s so unbelievably unbecoming and embarrassing for this great country of ours.
Amen
 
I reckon I am having a midday flareup of my TDS, but I tell you what, man, after Trump is no longer in office, I swear to all that is holy I am never, ever going to take for granted ever again a president – Republican or Democrat, I don’t care – who doesn’t tweet dramatic play-by-plays about military operations, troop movements, diplomatic negotiations, and trade conversations like a mentally ill teenager begging for validation and attention. It’s so unbelievably unbecoming and embarrassing for this great country of ours.
I mean that's a great thought, assuming he ever leaves.
 
I reckon I am having a midday flareup of my TDS, but I tell you what, man, after Trump is no longer in office, I swear to all that is holy I am never, ever going to take for granted ever again a president – Republican or Democrat, I don’t care – who doesn’t tweet dramatic play-by-plays about military operations, troop movements, diplomatic negotiations, and trade conversations like a mentally ill teenager begging for validation and attention. It’s so unbelievably unbecoming and embarrassing for this great country of ours.
You mean like every president ever.
 
A temporary ceasefire between Israel and Iran firing missiles at each other is not peace or an end to conflict. Not even close. Before Trumpites sprain their shoulders high-fiving and patting each other on the back, let's see if there is any real progress toward ending conflict in Gaza. Or Ukraine. Or replacing tariffs with significant trade agreements. Or reducing the national debt. Or any other campaign promises. This is a pleasant diversion and not much more.
It's more. You just don't want it to be more because you would rather the world lose than trump be right.
 
It's more. You just don't want it to be more because you would rather the world lose than trump be right.
I know you’re not addressing me but I do feel like this is a perfect opportunity for me to state for the record that I would crawl across broken glass and then walk through hellfire in gasoline soaked skivvies for Trump to be right and for there to finally be peace in the Middle East.
 
"Once again, the secret to Trump's political genius is that he basically understands the world like an average low-information voter."

Not being facetious or snarky here, but I think this illuminates Paine's program of meeting people where they are. The problem is what do you do as a democrat when where a shit ton of people are is Moronville...
 
"Once again, the secret to Trump's political genius is that he basically understands the world like an average low-information voter."

Not being facetious or snarky here, but I think this illuminates Paine's program of meeting people where they are. The problem is what do you do as a democrat when where a shit ton of people are is Moronville...
Pretty sure I need to get my glasses checked - I read that as "Monroeville," and was like, "where Romero shot the original Dawn of the Dead? Ohhhh...that's quite an original and clever reference & metaphor!"

( Full disclosure: I actually do have my annual eye exam on Friday :ROFLMAO: )
 
I know you’re not addressing me but I do feel like this is a perfect opportunity for me to state for the record that I would crawl across broken glass and then walk through hellfire in gasoline soaked skivvies for Trump to be right and for there to finally be peace in the Middle East.
Not sure the gasoline is doing any work in that hypothetical. It's probably equally uncomfortable gas or no gas. So save yourself the $2.98 or whatever it goes for near you.
 
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