JD Vance Catch-all | “we have to destroy the universities in this country”

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I doubt you'd like to live in a less educated society. I'm ambivalent about the higher unmarried tax rate. I get the argument that a formal relationship that includes the hope of raising a family should be subsidized. The school taxes are part of settling for indirect benefits like a better educated and productive society. If we were to eliminate some of the extraneous elements that limit what can be taught, we might even produce a better society.

Fat chance of that.
 
Anybody watch Rachel Maddow last night ?


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Rachel Maddow shows JD Vance explaining in his own words his lack of faith that democracy can deliver on his conservative ideals, and shows the influences behind Vance's preference that the United States government be gutted and instead run by a dictator. This is part two of two clips cut from...
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Why does he need a laugh track for his press conferences??? I really don’t understand this tactic.
 
I've not been paying much attention to JD, therefore my opinion of him remains very low.
 
heelinhell said:
If Trump wins, he could be a real threat before 2028
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Yeah. IF St. Donald of Mar-a-Lago wins, the time before Section 4 of the 25th Amendment is invoked will be measured in weeks, not months. And there will be minimal, if any, kickback. Somehow MAGA Nation will convince themselves that St. Donald sacrificed his waning strength, vitality, and health to move the GOP over the finish line, one last time. And now St. Donald should be allowed to lay down the burdens of the country he has carried on his back for so many years without the threat of yapping liberals dogs constantly nipping at his heels.
 
The MAGAts will never tolerate or accept removing Trump from office.

Trump would have to willingly leave office* and anoint a successor (if Trump is POTUS and Vance is VPOTUS, that doesn’t amount to anointing); even if Trump voluntarily leaves office*, the MAGAts won’t believe it was his choice. If Trump willingly leaves office*, the MAGAts will think the Deep State forced him out.

Vance will not be the MAGA godhead.

*Trump will never leave office voluntarily.
 
finesse said:
I don't think Mr. Charisma has what it takes. He can hold the weirdos, flakes and Paulists but I don't think he can inspire the batshit crazy.
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If he’s running against the likes of DeSantis, Haley, Hawley, Cruz, etc, he’s probably well positioned.
 
dukeman92 said:
Everyone should pay attention to JD because he is positioning himself to be a real threat in 2028
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If Trump wins, perhaps. But if Trump loses, I don’t see it. When is the last time, if ever, a VP candidate on a losing ticket has been a real threat politically?

In my lifetime, there was Dole, Mondale, Bentsen, Quayle, Lieberman, Edwards, Palin, Ryan, Kaine, and Pence. Of those, only two were able to go on to become their party’s nominee for President, but each time they were essentially sacrificial lambs, nominated to run when everyone knew that had no real chance. And Vance will have that Trump taint on him.
 


Remember that time Al Gore attended a fundraiser at a Buddhist temple as VP in 1996 and it was a major scandal that undermined his run for POTUS in 2000? TBF, it was a pretty egregious fundraising escapade using a tax-exempt religious site and more damning the organizers allegedly used monks as straw men for other Taiwanese-American donors to raise about a third of the $155,000 raised that day. So Gore deserved scrutiny and his answers were lacking (amounting to he didn’t know it was a fund-raiser, which seems unlikely, and thought here is no evidence he knew anything about the donation laundering, hard to believe he though Buddhist monks could donate $55,000 to anything).

The point is not that Gore was unfairly tagged and badgered for the Buddhist Temple escapee, more that the media just lets that kind of thing go now, even when it is a pattern of behavior by the Trump campaign and not just a one-off.
 
nycfan said:


Remember that time Al Gore attended a fundraiser at a Buddhist temple as VP in 1996 and it was a major scandal that undermined his run for POTUS in 2000? TBF, it was a pretty egregious fundraising escapade using a tax-exempt religious site and more damning the organizers allegedly used monks as straw men for other Taiwanese-American donors to raise about a third of the $155,000 raised that day. So Gore deserved scrutiny and his answers were lacking (amounting to he didn’t know it was a fund-raiser, which seems unlikely, and thought here is no evidence he knew anything about the donation laundering, hard to believe he though Buddhist monks could donate $55,000 to anything).

The point is not that Gore was unfairly tagged and badgered for the Buddhist Temple escapee, more that the media just lets that kind of thing go now, even when it is a pattern of behavior by the Trump campaign and not just a one-off.
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This is not at all to excuse the press, who I agree has just capitulated on this without a fight, but I think this whole issue has been profoundly impacted by SCOTUS's lurch to the right. There's just no possible chance this SCOTUS would come anywhere close to finding the obvious tax-law violations are actionable under the First Amendment.
 
nycfan said:


Remember that time Al Gore attended a fundraiser at a Buddhist temple as VP in 1996 and it was a major scandal that undermined his run for POTUS in 2000? TBF, it was a pretty egregious fundraising escapade using a tax-exempt religious site and more damning the organizers allegedly used monks as straw men for other Taiwanese-American donors to raise about a third of the $155,000 raised that day. So Gore deserved scrutiny and his answers were lacking (amounting to he didn’t know it was a fund-raiser, which seems unlikely, and thought here is no evidence he knew anything about the donation laundering, hard to believe he though Buddhist monks could donate $55,000 to anything).

The point is not that Gore was unfairly tagged and badgered for the Buddhist Temple escapee, more that the media just lets that kind of thing go now, even when it is a pattern of behavior by the Trump campaign and not just a one-off.
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Even if the US survives the Trump era as an economic/military superpower and a thriving model of democracy in the short term, there will be lingering damage to our norms for integrity and rule of law for decades. It’s likely this period is the beginning of our decline.
 
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