JD Vance Catch-all

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JD Vance, in 2020 messages, said Trump ‘thoroughly failed to deliver’​

In previously undisclosed messages, the future vice-presidential nominee said Trump had not fulfilled his economic agenda and predicted he would lose to Biden.

"... In the direct messages — sent during Trump’s final year in office to an acquaintance over the social media platform then known as Twitter — Vance harshly criticized his future running mate’s record of governance and said Trump had not fulfilled his economic agenda.

... The critical messages, shared with The Post by their recipient on the condition of anonymity because of concerns about retaliation, cast doubt on Vance’s oft-recited account of how and when he embraced Trumpism. They were written years after Vance’s previously reported remarks attacking Trump, such as his statements in 2016 that Trump was “reprehensible,” “cultural heroin” and possibly “America’s Hitler.” ..."

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Separately, from what I've read, the (finally) leaked political vetting memo on Vance it mostly notable for all the stuff it missed, not anything the media hasn't already found out anyway. Which raises several possibilities, including that (a) the vetting by Team Trump was as terrible as it appears or (b) it is half-baked, not particularly useful draft that got "hacked" and sent to media and politicians as a sort of trap to see who would take the bait (and nail them for it).
 
On Saturday the Vance team attempted to film a campaign event inside a restaurant in Pittsburgh without getting prior approval from the restaurant. The manager refused to let them do so, and they had to do the event from the parking lot.

#fourseasonstotallandscaping
 
Tom Emmer is getting WORKED on ABC right now. Good lord. If this was a fight it would have been stopped in round one. Martha Raddatz just tossed his cantankerous ass all over the studio.

He flat refused to answer any questions and just attacked Tim Walz the entire time. Even when she pressed.
 
aGDevil2k said:
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I think men who wear eye shadow should be . . .. Nah, that's not what I think. If JD Vance , or whatever name he is going by today, wants to be out and proud with eye shadow then it's no skin off my back. Go for it JD.
 
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We really already have this in the form of child tax credits and credits for child care. Vance is advocating an expansion of these benefits for parents/penalties for nonparents but it is in essence the exact same thing.

Congress is a little smarter about how they package it. Higher taxes with a deduction for parents? Who wouldn't vote for that? Lower taxes with a penalty for non parents? This Vance character is a monster. But we could design it where the exact same people pay the exact same tax and the government collects the same revenue no matter which plan we choose.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
We really already have this in the form of child tax credits and credits for child care. Vance is advocating an expansion of these benefits for parents/penalties for nonparents but it is in essence the exact same thing.

Congress is a little smarter about how they package it. Higher taxes with a deduction for parents? Who wouldn't vote for that? Lower taxes with a penalty for non parents? This Vance character is a monster. But we could design it where the exact same people pay the exact same tax and the government collects the same revenue no matter which plan we choose.
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Maybe it has to do with him saying we should “punish” things we DO NOT LIKE!!! like people without children. Do we really not like people without children? Vance is the one demonizing people.
 
ChileG said:
Maybe it has to do with him saying we should “punish” things we DO NOT LIKE!!! like people without children. Do we really not like people without children? Vance is the one demonizing people.
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Yep. Probably bad politics, although his supporters seem to like it, but potentially policy neutral.
 
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Watch: Rachel Maddow lays out why you should care about JD Vance's real agenda

Rachel Maddow shows JD Vance explaining in his own words his lack of faith that democracy can deliver on his conservative ideals, and shows the influences behind Vance's preference that the United States government be gutted and instead run by a dictator. This is part two of two clips cut from...
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Watch: Rachel Maddow lays out why you should care about JD Vance's real agenda
 
altmin said:
www.msnbc.com

Watch: Rachel Maddow lays out why you should care about JD Vance's real agenda

Rachel Maddow shows JD Vance explaining in his own words his lack of faith that democracy can deliver on his conservative ideals, and shows the influences behind Vance's preference that the United States government be gutted and instead run by a dictator. This is part two of two clips cut from...
www.msnbc.com www.msnbc.com

Watch: Rachel Maddow lays out why you should care about JD Vance's real agenda
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^ Very scary. Vance needs to be no where near power.
 
altmin said:
^ Very scary. Vance needs to be no where near power.
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Yeah, those of us without children certainly aren't doing our part. It's not like we don't already pay higher taxes with fewer deductions and it's certainly not like we pay property taxes to fund schools for those who do have children. We really need to get our shit together over here as the childless crew.
 
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