JD Vance Catch-all

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Kingpin said:
Says the Yale Law grad
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I think it's just possible that this left wing site may have taken Vance out of context in the hopes that people would get outraged and spread the article giving them more clicks and more advertising revenue. I'm not going to vote for Vance but he's not that bad.

The election cycle is making people who are normally very smart suspend their critical thinking skills.
 
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05C40 said:
True enough. But what is more cheaper: a) a backhoe with a trained operator or b) 20 illegals with shovels and without benefits?
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I suspect, when you calculate all the risk values, including being sued if one gets injured or the ramifications of getting caught or any number of factors, the back hoe.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
I think it's just possible that this left wing site may have taken Vance out of context in the hopes that people would get outraged and spread the article giving them more clicks and more advertising revenue. I'm not going to vote for Vance but he's not that bad.

The election cycle is making people nutty.
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You've seen all the racist shit he's been saying the past 3 weeks haven't you? Or maybe you like that stuff and its not too bad I don't know.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
I think it's just possible that this left wing site may have taken Vance out of context in the hopes that people would get outraged and spread the article giving them more clicks and more advertising revenue. I'm not going to vote for Vance but he's not that bad.

The election cycle is making people nutty.
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No. Curtis Yarvin is a huge influence on Thiel and Vance, and he means exactly that.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
I think it's just possible that this left wing site may have taken Vance out of context in the hopes that people would get outraged and spread the article giving them more clicks and more advertising revenue. I'm not going to vote for Vance but he's not that bad.

The election cycle is making people who are normally very smart suspend their critical thinking skills.
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You do you, but I don't think that this is a battle that you want to fight. Save your ammo.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
I think it's just possible that this left wing site may have taken Vance out of context in the hopes that people would get outraged and spread the article giving them more clicks and more advertising revenue. I'm not going to vote for Vance but he's not that bad.

The election cycle is making people nutty.
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Well, why don't you do a little research and find out if that is the case. Come back and share with us what you fund.

This is the same guy that says miserable childless female cat ladies should have no seat at the table and no say in the direction of our country.

He also knowingly concocted a fake story about migrants eating family pets in Springfield, OH. He did so knowing it was false after the local Pub mayor told him so. He has since admitted he knew it was false, but justifies it by saying it brought attention to the border issue. Meanwhile, hospitals and schools in Springfield have received bomb threats and had to be shut down.

You can recognize that "things" have gotten nutty, but Vance isn't that bad?

Interesting
 
gtyellowjacket said:
I think it's just possible that this left wing site may have taken Vance out of context in the hopes that people would get outraged and spread the article giving them more clicks and more advertising revenue. I'm not going to vote for Vance but he's not that bad.

The election cycle is making people who are normally very smart suspend their critical thinking skills.
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Did you read the article? It provided the context. There was a whole series of statements there, all of which built up to the conclusion.

The speech in question was titled "The universities are the enemy." That was the title. Early on, he quoted Nixon as saying, "the professors are the enemy." [edit: actually, that was the last line of his speech. So much for out of context]

Here, you can watch the whole thing, or you can look at the transcript on the side. Tell us what was out of context
 
It gets even worse. In that speech, starting at about 15:00, complained about Biden's economic policies and then said:

"the person who has implemented these policies is the first female treasury secretary in the history of the United States."

He blamed the woman, because she was a woman!
 
05C40 said:
Finally, a politician who says what he actually believes. Let's see what America thinks of that sentiment. Somebody has to dig those ditches and apparently if Trump/Vance get elected, it won't be immigrants anymore.
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This is straight out of the musings of Vance's benefactor, Peter Thiel, and also Project 2025. They want to take us back to a world where most Americans are uneducated and perform menial labor while they rule over us like emperors.
 
I skimmed the transcript of the speech. No where that I saw did he say he wanted to destroy the University system. He was basically making two criticisms about the current system: 1. Universities squash any non liberal thought instead of encouraging people to discover for themselves.
2. People that don't want their kids to be HVAC technicians instead of taking on tons of debt for college because they think that is the only way to have a good life are part of the problem.

And speaking of out of context, he wasn't criticizing the treasury secretary because she was a woman. He was criticizing people that were saying you can't criticize a treasury secretary that was overseeing an economy with high inflation and other problems because she was a woman. It's right there at 14:57 minutes into the video if anyone cares to check for themselves. It's shocking to me that people that think they're intelligent can interpret that any other way.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
I skimmed the transcript of the speech. No where that I saw did he say he wanted to destroy the University system. He was basically making two criticisms about the current system: 1. Universities squash any non liberal thought instead of encouraging people to discover for themselves.
2. People that don't want their kids to be HVAC technicians instead of taking on tons of debt for college because they think that is the only way to have a good life are part of the problem.

And speaking of out of context, he wasn't criticizing the treasury secretary because she was a woman. He was criticizing people that were saying you can't criticize a treasury secretary that was overseeing an economy with high inflation and other problems because she was a woman. It's right there at 14:57 minutes into the video if anyone cares to check for themselves. It's shocking to me that people that think they're intelligent can interpret that any other way.
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GTFOH. He said at 0:35 that people in this country have to "honestly and aggressively attack the universities" and closed with "the professors are the enemy." This was just his speech. The Q&A isn't on that video. Do you really think that he wouldn't have said "destroy" having previously said "aggressively attack"? For what purpose does one "aggressively attack" if not to destroy?

Again, the title of his speech -- the TITLE! -- was "the universities are the enemy." That is not a speech making those two criticisms.

As for Yellen, he absolutely was criticizing her for her gender. He called her a DEI hire. What the fuck does that have to do with his point? Why is he bringing that up? Yellen has impeccable credentials for her job. She's probably the most qualified Treasury Secretary in history. So when he attacks her for being a DEI hire, he's saying that any and all women are questionable selections for any public office.

To be clear: Yellen was "implementing" policies enacted into law. Her gender has nothing to do with anything. When he brings up gender for absolutely no reason, he's attacking her for it. I shouldn't have to explain this to you.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
I think it's just possible that this left wing site may have taken Vance out of context in the hopes that people would get outraged and spread the article giving them more clicks and more advertising revenue. I'm not going to vote for Vance but he's not that bad.

The election cycle is making people who are normally very smart suspend their critical thinking skills.
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I think it's possible many on this board would put you on Ignore but for the fact they would miss so many great retorts from everyone else.
 
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