Kamala Harris Left Off Absentee Ballot - Montana

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CallMeTyler said:
Shady AF.
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I think its more likely a mistake, and one that was easily caught and fixed. More shady would have been "accidentally" omitting RFK from the ballot in a state that was competitive.

Honestly surprised more mistakes like that don't happen. Obviously not at the presidential level but I'm surprised that with elections run by at least 52 different organizations with thousands of races we never hear about mistakes. You would expect that someone, somewhere would fat finger the city comptroller of Toledo race or equivalent.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
I think its more likely a mistake, and one that was easily caught and fixed. More shady would have been "accidentally" omitting RFK from the ballot in a state that was competitive.

Honestly surprised more mistakes like that don't happen. Obviously not at the presidential level but I'm surprised that with elections run by at least 52 different organizations with thousands of races we never hear about mistakes. You would expect that someone, somewhere would fat finger the city comptroller of Toledo race or equivalent.
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Sorry, but you’re not going to dismiss these errors as accidental.

Let’s evaluate her history:

Sec of State Christi Jacobson -
Previously sued for removing names from petitions.
Criticized for telling county commissioners to not hire candidates that were affiliated with the Democratic Party.
Oversees online system that subsequently leaves Kamala off absentee ballots.
 
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CallMeTyler said:
Sorry, but you’re not going to dismiss these errors as accidental.

Let’s evaluate her history:

Sec of State Christi Jacobson -
Previously sued for removing names from petitions.
Criticized for telling county commissioners to not hire candidates that were affiliated with the Democratic Party.
Oversees online system that subsequently leaves Kamala off absentee ballots.
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Sorry, but I still think accidental. This was an electronic remote voting system. Basically a voter goes to a website and votes. This did not affect the mail-in absentee ballots.

Why would someone leave Harris's name off on purpose? First of all she's not going to win Montana. Secondly and more importantly, it's not like someone's going to look at that and say "oh, I guess Harris must not be running for president anymore. My only options are to choose between Donald or RFK. That's weird but I guess they know what they're doing." Can you imagine a scenario where that would be realistic?

Once they realized their mistake, they fixed it within hours. I have my doubts that Harris lost a single vote.
 
As for "can I imagine?" Yes, I can imagine a system where a Republican makes an outrageous mistake, not to disadvantage Harris, but to target Tester. 1. Harris gets left off the ballot. 2. The GOP throws up their hands and says the equivalent of "Lawsy, lawsy, I don't know nothing 'bout fixing no election. But those darn courts won't let me fix it now. But it ain't like Miss Harris ever stood a chance in Montana." 3. Without Harris on a significant number of ballots, would that affect enough voters who might have split their ticket and vote for Tester and Trump to just go ahead and voter straight Republican? ETA: Or think, "Well, if they don't care enough to even get their candidate on the ballot, why should I vote for Tester?"
 
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05C40 said:
As for "can I imagine?" Yes, I can imagine a system where a Republican makes an outrageous mistake, not to disadvantage Harris, but to target Tester. 1. Harris gets left off the ballot. 2. The GOP throws up their hands and says the equivalent of "Lawsy, lawsy, I don't know nothing 'bout fixing no election. But those darn courts won't let me fix it now. But it ain't like Miss Harris ever stood a chance in Montana." 3. Without Harris on a significant number of ballots, would that affect enough voters who might have split their ticket and vote for Tester and Trump to just go ahead and voter straight Republican?
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Sure but that is not what happened. They literally fixed it within hours.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
I think its more likely a mistake, and one that was easily caught and fixed. More shady would have been "accidentally" omitting RFK from the ballot in a state that was competitive.

Honestly surprised more mistakes like that don't happen. Obviously not at the presidential level but I'm surprised that with elections run by at least 52 different organizations with thousands of races we never hear about mistakes. You would expect that someone, somewhere would fat finger the city comptroller of Toledo race or equivalent.
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I hope you're being contrarian for its own sake. This is such a nakedly disingenuous "perspective". Flip it on its head:

How. The. Fuck. Do you forget to put the leading contender for US PRESIDENT on the ballot?

If you actually, genuinely, believe this could be a whoopsie-doozle then I would like to sell you a bridge.
 
05C40 said:
"Sure, . . , [t]hey literally fixed it within hours," of being caught.
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Yeah. They were pretty sneaky to only send it to tens of thousands of Montana residents. I'm surprised anyone noticed that a major candidate was left off.

Or I guess it could have just been a mistake.
 
Hizer said:
I hope you're being contrarian for its own sake. This is such a nakedly disingenuous "perspective". Flip it on its head:

How. The. Fuck. Do you forget to put the leading contender for US PRESIDENT on the ballot?

If you actually, genuinely, believe this could be a whoopsie-doozle then I would like to sell you a bridge.
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Contrarianism for its sake is Yellowjacket’s MO.
 
Hizer said:
I hope you're being contrarian for its own sake. This is such a nakedly disingenuous "perspective". Flip it on its head:

How. The. Fuck. Do you forget to put the leading contender for US PRESIDENT on the ballot?

If you actually, genuinely, believe this could be a whoopsie-doozle then I would like to sell you a bridge.
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You've never forgotten something incredibly obvious at your job? It happens, it gets fixed and you move on.
 
Trumpers have long since forfeited a "presumption of regularity" in the BSC things they try to pull

"presumption of regularity" - The Presumption of Regularity in Judicial Review of the Executive Branch - Harvard Law Review

"The presumption of regularity is a deference doctrine: it credits to the executive branch certain facts about what happened and why and, in doing so, narrows judicial scrutiny and widens executive discretion over decisionmaking processes and outcomes."

The state of Montana has long since forfeited the right to claim a presumption of regularity in regard to actions that can be preceived as partisan.
 
lawtig02 said:
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Or you get fired, your firm gets sued, and you may get disbarred.
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Really. Every mistake you or your colleagues have ever made in your career has resulted in such severe consequences? I'm surprised there are any lawyers or firms left.

That hasn't been my experience but my industry is much different. Mistakes aren't fun, but they happen to everyone and you try not to make them again.
 
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