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Brasil has certainly done the right thing but to be fair they’ve had some bad experiences with authoritarian governments.
 
Did not know Nasrallah saw Bukele favorably. That’s too cozy with authoritarianism for me.

Trump wants Nasry Asfura as his truth social babbling indicate. “Trump also announced granting a pardon to Hernandez. He said, “Additionally, I will be granting a Full and Complete Pardon to Former President Juan Orlando Hernandez who has been, according to many people that I greatly respect, treated very harshly and unfairly.” Hernandez was convicted of drug trafficking charges and sentenced to 45 years in prison by a US court last year.
The US president further stated, “This cannot be allowed to happen, especially now, after Tito Asfura wins the Election, when Honduras will be on its way to Great Political and Financial Success. VOTE FOR TITO ASFURA FOR PRESIDENT, AND CONGRATULATIONS TO JUAN ORLANDO HERNANDEZ ON YOUR UPCOMING PARDON. Thank you for your attention to this matter. MAKE HONDURAS GREAT AGAIN!” Is Trump interfering in Honduran elections? Ex-president Juan Orlando Hernandez pardoned, Tito Asfura receives BIG backing


That really only leaves one option…Moncada of the Zelaya/Castro clique as a desirable winner.

Not sure just how much crookedness Trump is prepared to engage in over this election nor to what degree his pardoning of the coke dealing former president will go to signal that.
 
Little Narco Rubio must have signed off on this. Make Honduras Great Again? The new imperialism, intervention by sheer idiocy. Idiocy and evil, the Trump doctrine.

“As word spread on Friday about Mr. Hernández’s pardon, Todd Robinson, who served as the U.S. assistant secretary of state for international narcotics and law enforcement affairs at the State Department, said online: “We blow up ‘alleged’ drug boats in the Caribbean but pardon actually convicted drug traffickers in the U.S. Someone help me make sense of this.”

Trump to Pardon Juan Orlando Hernández, Honduran Ex-Leader Convicted in Drug Case
 
All the options are bad, like really bad. Moncada will be the continuation of what's been a terrible government. Honduras is already a disaster on so many fronts.

Security and jobs are the top two issues in Honduras. Nasralla has always been politically expedient; think he's just saying that to score political points. He wouldn't have the support in the legislature to do what Buckle did.
 
53% of the tally.
Looks like Moncada will definitely lose...too close to call between Nasralla and Asfura. I've read reports that more urban votes are pending which should favor Nasralla.
 
I suspect Nasralla will win. He's been stronger in the urban areas and a lot of the voting tables that haven't been tallied are in the cities.
 
Same party. But he supported the extradition of JOH at the time.

Word on the street is that he isn't happy with the pardon but can't really say much at this point.

But you know how politics makes for strange bedfellows. Get this for weird, one of Juan Orlando's closest allies in the region are the Ortega's in Nicaragua.
 
CRHeel94 said:
Same party. But he supported the extradition of JOH at the time.

Word on the street is that he isn't happy with the pardon but can't really say much at this point.

But you know how politics makes for strange bedfellows. Get this for weird, one of Juan Orlando's closest allies in the region are the Ortega's in Nicaragua.
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Wouldn't the Ortegas and the Orlandos both be essentially criminals, thus allies, though?

I just can't stomach anyone who both praises Bukele and is the favorite of trump. That says poison pure and simple to me.
 
donbosco said:
Wouldn't the Ortegas and the Orlandos both be essentially criminals, thus allies, though?

I just can't stomach anyone who both praises Bukele and is the favorite of trump. That says poison pure and simple to me.
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And the Ortega's are the closest allies to Venezuela...so go figure. The Xiomara crew is also tight with the Ortega's.


Well the political scene all over Latin America is shaping up as a left vs right battle.
All of the candidates on the right are seen as Trump friendly (or Trump favorites).
All of the candidates on the left are perceived as part of the Cuba/Venezuela axis.

Doesn't seem to leave a lot of room for nuance in the middle.
Latin America is just fucked.
Note that the guy that won in Bolivia is a centrist.
 
CRHeel94 said:
Ironically, I think Trump may have cost Asfura the election with the JOH pardon. I know a lot of staunch conservatives who cant believe he pardoned him. The man is a crook. Sounds like Roger Stone was the conduit.
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Hard to believe that Asfura isn't also a crook. Perhaps an unlucky one but one just the same.

But then I tend to see a great deal of crookedness in the worldview of modern Rightists overall.
 
CRHeel94 said:
And the Ortega's are the closest allies to Venezuela...so go figure. The Xiomara crew is also tight with the Ortega's.


Well the political scene all over Latin America is shaping up as a left vs right battle.
All of the candidates on the right are seen as Trump friendly (or Trump favorites).
All of the candidates on the left are perceived as part of the Cuba/Venezuela axis.

Doesn't seem to leave a lot of room for nuance in the middle.
Latin America is just fucked.
Note that the guy that won in Bolivia is a centrist.
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The message that you get on Arevalo is that he's part of a Cuba/Venezuela axis?
 
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