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CRHeel94 said:
To be fair, Trump can't even find Honduras on a map.

The JOH pardon is a travesty...even the Hondurasn hate him.
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You’re probably right about that but I have no doubt the Project 2025 crew has plans for everyone including the re-colonization of Latin America.

I’m sure you’re aware of the Prospera development on Roatan as well as its “free sovereign” venue at the mainland. This freedumb program was created by the then-rightist military-aligned government after the coup and at the powerful urging by US- and other foreign-led libertarians. Once the leftist government took over they tried to undo the give-aways. With a new rightist government they’ll be aligned with the trumpist regime to achieve their aims over the strenuous objections of the local population.

There’s a big play throughout Central and South America (see:Milei) for control of capital and economies. Everything old is new again.
 
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Centrist Nasralla takes slim lead in Honduran presidential election plagued by delays as Trump alleges fraud

Salvador Nasralla, of the centrist Liberal Party, on Tuesday took a razor-thin lead in Honduras' presidential election over Nasry Asfura, the conservative candidate backed by U.S. President Donald Trump, in a vote count plagued by delays and allegations of fraud.
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Trump raises doubts about Honduras presidential vote count

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Monday that it appeared that Honduras is "trying to change the results of their Presidential Election," alleging that the country's election commission prematurely stopped counting votes. "If they do there will be hell to pay! The people of Honduras voted in...
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donbosco said:
Hard to believe that Asfura isn't also a crook. Perhaps an unlucky one but one just the same.

But then I tend to see a great deal of crookedness in the worldview of modern Rightists overall.
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This may sound jaded...but I have come to the conclusion that most of the political class everywhere is crooked in some way. Difference is that in the first world they have found elegant ways to camouflage influence peddling through lobbyists and stock tips.

So is Asfura a crook? Probably. In his political past, he was a mayor of Tegucigalpa and in charge of large infrastructure projects...no way he cam unscathed through that.

But he's not on the level of JOH who was engaged in major drug trafficking.
 
donbosco said:
The message that you get on Arevalo is that he's part of a Cuba/Venezuela axis?
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That was how he was perceived as a candidate. But all candidates on the left are painted that way...seeing it here in the CR election cycle.

Think he has been walking a very delicate tightrope. On some issues he has worked closely with the US and he has avoided--as far as I can tell--criticizing US policy or Trump (as opposed to say Sheinbaum or Crespo). He has some tough sledding ahead: just like Honduras, Guatemala has serious issues they need to tackle.
 
Well, clearly you are far, far from alone in that evaluation. I knew some politicians growing up through family and to this day trust my father's judgment and he found those folks to be upright. Perhaps none exist of that stripe any longer. I don't tend to believe that though.

I'm a partisan and don't try to hide it and probably the most salient reason I believe what I believe is related to values, one of which is honesty. I know that I don't see values in play with modern conservatism, certainly not with trumpism, with which I have any connection (thankfully). I can't find any positive comparison between the likes, just for example, of Roy Cooper or Jeff Jackson, and Mark Robinson and Virginia Foxx, just to name four.
 
CRHeel94 said:
That was how he was perceived as a candidate. But all candidates on the left are painted that way...seeing it here in the CR election cycle.

Think he has been walking a very delicate tightrope. On some issues he has worked closely with the US and he has avoided--as far as I can tell--criticizing US policy or Trump (as opposed to say Sheinbaum or Crespo). He has some tough sledding ahead: just like Honduras, Guatemala has serious issues they need to tackle.
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If he can outlast his Attorney General Consuelo Porras (A Crook Among Crooks of the Guatemalan Right) he might get some things done...as is, simply stemming the tide of corruption rather than surrendering to it in frustration would be a major achievement.
 
I have nothing meaningful to say on the topic at hand and appreciate those who do. My only contribution is to say “Tegucigalpa” is one of if not the most fun city names to say.
 
“My profound gratitude goes to President (Trump) for having the courage to defend justice at a moment when a weaponized system refused to acknowledge the truth,” Hernández wrote on X Wednesday.

President of Honduras from 2014 until 2022, Hernández was convicted and sentenced last year to 45 years in prison and given an $8 million fine by a US judge for drug trafficking offenses. Hernández insisted he was innocent, claiming his trial was “rigged” and that it relied on the accusations of criminals who sought revenge against him.

Both Republican and Democratic members of Congress have criticized Trump’s decision to pardon someone with a drug trafficking conviction when his administration has been so focused on disrupting drug trafficking in Latin America, ramping up military activity and launching controversial strikes on alleged drug boats in the Caribbean."

 
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