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Many Americans Say the Democratic Party Does Not Share Their Priorities

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The dems are missing a statesman. We had Obama, but after you are done being president, that is hindered as you have to "leave room for the next person."

Who is going to be "THAT VOICE" that is everywhere all at once? Someone that motivates, inspires and isn't afraid to throw the damn mud, blame with abandon, and point out the damage in real terms?

No one has stepped up in now 8 years. It's time.
 
Yascha Mounk is a strange pick for a self-avowed Marxist. He's a reactionary centrist!
I don’t think it’s fair to call him reactionary, but he’s certainly a liberal centrist. These are strange times; I obviously don’t agree with Mounk on everything, probably not even a majority of things. But he is able to lay out the mistakes of the postmodernist left better than any other author I’ve read on the subject.

I also enjoy his podcast for the same reasons I enjoy this forum. I get to hear from liberals about how they view the world and current events. Like Marx, I came to socialism through liberalism, and I think it holds a lot of fundamental values that leftists of all stripes should find important.

From the perspective of a socialist, Left is Not Woke by Susan Neiman is also excellent.

 
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I don’t think it’s fair to call him reactionary, but he’s certainly a liberal centrist. These are strange times; I obviously don’t agree with Mounk on everything, probably not even a majority of things. But he is able to lay out the mistakes of the postmodernist left better than any other author I’ve read on the subject.

I also enjoy his podcast for the same reasons I enjoy this forum. I get to hear from liberals about how they view the world and current events. Like Marx, I came to socialism through liberalism, and I think it holds a lot of fundamental values that leftists of all stripes should find important.

From the perspective of a socialist, Left is Not Woke by Susan Neiman is also excellent.

 
I look around at all the shit going on and for once, I completely agree with the title of this thread. It just keeps getting worse… and MAGAts just continue to eat shit from daddy Trump.

You guys can argue everyday about what the Dems did wrong or who the voice of the party will be and at the end of the day, none of it matters. Because NOTHING the Dems say/do/support is remotely close to the terrible shit being done by the pubs. They’re literally unraveling the threads of our democracy as we speak. Until that is unacceptable to republicans, the rest of it is just noise.
 

How COVID Pushed a Generation of Young People to the Right​

Research suggests that pandemics are more likely to reduce rather than build trust in scientific and political authorities.

For decades, America’s young voters have been deeply—and famously—progressive. In 2008, a youthquake sent Barack Obama to the White House. In 2016, voters ages 18 to 29 broke for Hillary Clinton by 18 points. In 2020, they voted for Joe Biden by 24 points. In 2024, Donald Trump closed most of the gap, losing voters under 30 by a 51–47 margin. In one recent CBS poll, Americans under 30 weren’t just evenly split between the parties. They were even more pro-Trump than Boomers over 65.

Precisely polling teens and 20-somethings is a fraught business; some surveys suggest that Trump’s advantage among young people might already be fading. But young people’s apparent lurch right is not an American-only trend.

“Far-right parties are surging across Europe—and young voters are buying in,” the journalist Hanne Cokelaere wrote for Politico last year. In France, Germany, Finland, and beyond, young voters are swinging their support toward anti-establishment far-right parties “in numbers equal to and even exceeding older voters.” In Germany, a 2024 survey of 2,000 people showed that young people have adopted a relatively new “gloomy outlook” on the future. No surprise, then, that the far-right Alternative für Deutschland has become the most popular party among Germans under 30. Like most interesting phenomena, this one even has a German name: Rechtsruck, or rightward shift.

What’s driving this global Rechtsruck? It’s hard to say for sure. Maybe the entire world is casting a protest vote after several years of inflation. Last year was the largest wipeout for political incumbents in the developed world since the end of the Second World War. One level deeper, it wasn’t inflation on its own, but rather the combination of weak real economic growth and record immigration that tilled the soil for far-right upstarts, who can criticize progressive governments on both sides of the Atlantic for their failure to look out for their own citizens first.

 
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Wisconsin Democratic governor proposes replacing 'mother' with 'inseminated person' in state law
Wisconsin budget proposal recommends changing 'paternity' to 'parentage,' and 'father' to 'parent' in certain parts of state law

 
Wisconsin Democratic governor proposes replacing 'mother' with 'inseminated person' in state law
Wisconsin budget proposal recommends changing 'paternity' to 'parentage,' and 'father' to 'parent' in certain parts of state law

First, has anyone noted a suspicious bulge in his cheek that could be caused by a tongue?

Barring that, "Not my monkey, not my circus."
 

'New low': Longtime House Dem ripped for 'disgusting' questioning of Musk's loyalty to US as an immigrant​


Rep. Marcy Kaptur, D-Ohio, sparked a firestorm on social media over comments questioning DOGE chief Elon Musk’s allegiance to the U.S. given that he has been a citizen for "only" 22 years.

"Mr. Musk has just been here 22 years," Kaptur said outside the Capitol on Wednesday. "And he’s a citizen of three countries. I always ask myself the question, with the damage he’s doing here, when push comes to shove, which country is his loyalty to? South Africa? Canada? Or the United States? And he’s only been a citizen, I’ll say again, 22 years."

 

'New low': Longtime House Dem ripped for 'disgusting' questioning of Musk's loyalty to US as an immigrant​


Rep. Marcy Kaptur, D-Ohio, sparked a firestorm on social media over comments questioning DOGE chief Elon Musk’s allegiance to the U.S. given that he has been a citizen for "only" 22 years.

"Mr. Musk has just been here 22 years," Kaptur said outside the Capitol on Wednesday. "And he’s a citizen of three countries. I always ask myself the question, with the damage he’s doing here, when push comes to shove, which country is his loyalty to? South Africa? Canada? Or the United States? And he’s only been a citizen, I’ll say again, 22 years."

I think this is a legitimate concern. When one is working to undermine American ideals, customs and laws and can easily flee to another country, it should raise eyebrows.
 
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Many Americans say they do not believe the Democratic Party is focused on the economic issues that matter most to them and is instead placing too much emphasis on social issues that they consider less urgent.

Asked to identify the Democratic Party’s most important priorities, Americans most often listed abortion, L.G.B.T.Q. rights and climate change, according to a poll from The New York Times and Ipsos conducted from Jan. 2 to 10.

The issues that people cited as most important to them personally were the economy and inflation, health care and immigration, the poll found. The kinds of social causes that progressive activists have championed in recent years ranked much lower.

As Democrats gather in Washington this weekend to elect the next chairman of their party, and debate how to most effectively counter the Trump administration, the latest public opinion surveys contain worrisome signs for them.

The country remains deeply divided over Mr. Trump’s leadership, with roughly equal shares of people saying that his second term is cause for celebration or concern.

But the poll suggests that people do not view the Democratic Party as an appealing alternative.

In a broad sense, the poll, which surveyed a representative sample of 2,128 adults nationwide, found that Americans think the Republican Party is more in sync with the mood of the country. The issues that people said mattered most to Republicans were also, for the most part, the issues that mattered to them: immigration, the economy, inflation and taxes.
What a shocker. Dumb American voters think Democrats are only focused on the issues right wing media tells them Democrats are focused on.

We are beyond fucked.

For the love of God, I implore all of you, I beg of you, please destroy some fucking rednecks like your life depends on it. It does, I promise you.
 

'New low': Longtime House Dem ripped for 'disgusting' questioning of Musk's loyalty to US as an immigrant​


Rep. Marcy Kaptur, D-Ohio, sparked a firestorm on social media over comments questioning DOGE chief Elon Musk’s allegiance to the U.S. given that he has been a citizen for "only" 22 years.

"Mr. Musk has just been here 22 years," Kaptur said outside the Capitol on Wednesday. "And he’s a citizen of three countries. I always ask myself the question, with the damage he’s doing here, when push comes to shove, which country is his loyalty to? South Africa? Canada? Or the United States? And he’s only been a citizen, I’ll say again, 22 years."

Please boside better, or stfu. Please and thank you.
 

From Sherrod Brown.
No.

If you want to say that Democrats need to do a better job selling the fact they are the worker’s party, then I’d agree wholeheartedly. I’d even agree that we need to spend more time in the rural and red districts to make this pitch.

But compare the two parties and tell me which party is more pro-worker. It’s not even close.

Just putting this out there…do you think some of these voters maybe lean into the “worker party” concerns to cover up other reasons for voting for the anti-union, pro-management party that the Republicans clearly are?
 

From Sherrod Brown.
I like Sherrod Brown. That was a pretty empty piece. I get it -- he's writing a short article; he's no longer a Senator so he doesn't have as much standing as he had; and Dems are still trying to find the answers.

What I took from that article is that Dems need to talk differently. Be less preachy. I'm not sure what else there is.

The wage/productivity concept just doesn't convey the information that many people think it does. One important reason that wages and productivity rose together was that workers didn't face much competition from technology. Technology could make an auto worker produce more, but you still needed the auto worker. Moreover, the technology itself created a skill -- namely, the experience with the machines, and workers weren't as replaceable.

Today, technology doesn't just aid workers; it replaces them. It will replace them more readily the higher the wage. And the people who run the tech are college educated. There's just no getting around that. It's not entirely and always true, but it's more true than not.

And can we make up for that with less-than-college training programs? Here's my experience: back when I was doing computer consulting, big companies had IT workforces trained at places like Chubb and IIT and DeVry. That created opportunities for me, because those people were terrible at what they did. They were basically incapable of solving any problem. At one point, they hired me an "assistant" who would help me build, and then take over when I left (I was more of a consultant). He was a Chubb guy. He was completely useless. Like, I would give him a project that I could do in an hour on Monday, and check in with him on Friday. It was usually a gigantic mess. He just didn't get it.

I would never hire from Chubb or DeVry or any of those places again. I mean, maybe I would now, because I would view my previous experience as stale, but had I stayed in tech and not gone to law school, that would have been my attitude.

The reason is that those places self-select in a bad way. Who goes to Chubb? Primarily it's people who want a tech career, but were not good enough students or smart enough to attend college. Sure, there were undoubtedly some who couldn't afford college, or who had dropped out for reasons and were trying to restart their careers . . . but from what I saw, the average Chubb grad is a C student in high school. And that just doesn't get it done in today's world. It's an A-student world.

I don't have any good ideas about what to do about these issues, if it's true that the working class a) wants jobs it can't do; and b) doesn't want to accept government assistance (except the kind they already get but don't consider).
 
Wisconsin Democratic governor proposes replacing 'mother' with 'inseminated person' in state law
Wisconsin budget proposal recommends changing 'paternity' to 'parentage,' and 'father' to 'parent' in certain parts of state law

Seems like something republicans would like since that's all they see women as good for.
 

'New low': Longtime House Dem ripped for 'disgusting' questioning of Musk's loyalty to US as an immigrant​


Rep. Marcy Kaptur, D-Ohio, sparked a firestorm on social media over comments questioning DOGE chief Elon Musk’s allegiance to the U.S. given that he has been a citizen for "only" 22 years.

"Mr. Musk has just been here 22 years," Kaptur said outside the Capitol on Wednesday. "And he’s a citizen of three countries. I always ask myself the question, with the damage he’s doing here, when push comes to shove, which country is his loyalty to? South Africa? Canada? Or the United States? And he’s only been a citizen, I’ll say again, 22 years."

He's only loyal to his own self interest.
 
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