Many Americans Say the Democratic Party Does Not Share Their Priorities
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The animals trapped in human bodies Therians are neurological outliers
No, there was not kitty litter in a school bathroom.
Yes, there was a woman eating a cat. She was not an immigrant. She was born and went to high school in Springfield Ohio.
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sringwal
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Looks like somebody just discovered AI chatbots and decided to create a new username!
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I'm just saying that of this list of things...
Socialist left
Identity synthesis
Liberal Democratic left
Conflation between
Materialist socialist left
Identity focused left
Wokeness is…….
Social Justice politics
Liberal identity focused segments…….
I have zero clue where myself or people like myself would be placed. I assume you'd place yourself in "socialist left" but that's only because you use the word socialist to describe yourself. I honestly don't know what that word means in today's nomenclature either.
All of those seem to me to be really beyond my grasp of understanding the people you're referring to.
I think it gets back to this idea that I don't want to be a political scientist to have a discussion about elections. I fully admit that makes me low information, but it is what it is in that regard. I don't have the time or inclination to delve that deep into the political theory.
Whats likley sad is that words like "sigma" or "ohio" or "skibidi rizz" have more of an actual impact on daily life for most Americans than the terminology in that list does.
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So, have you decided which bathrooms they can use and proposed legislation to ban medical treatments and generally marginalize them?The animals trapped in human bodies Therians are neurological outliers
No, there was not kitty litter in a school bathroom.
Yes, there was a woman eating a cat. She was not an immigrant. She was born and went to high school in Springfield Ohio.
I'm in support of these people living their best life without government interference or bigots trying to make laws to marginalize them.
Interesting phenomenon I'll have to read more.
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I get it. It’s totally fair to not have the time to delve deeply into theory or political science, and I don’t expect the average person to. Like I’ve said, probably not a conversation suited well for a message board. If we were talking about it in person, I’d be able to explain things as they arise.
I really do think you would get something out of the book I recommended though. The author explains things better than me and with simpler nomenclature. Not sure if you perused the interview I posted with him, but it’s a condensed version of his argument from the book.
Yascha Mounk on The Identity Trap
Coleman Hughes interviews Yascha Mounk about how to make the case against the new ideas on race, gender and sexual orientation that have become so influential over the past decade.
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Yascha Mounk is a strange pick for a self-avowed Marxist. He's a reactionary centrist!I get it. It’s totally fair to not have the time to delve deeply into theory or political science, and I don’t expect the average person to. Like I’ve said, probably not a conversation suited well for a message board. If we were talking about it in person, I’d be able to explain things as they arise.
I really do think you would get something out of the book I recommended though. The author explains things better than me and with simpler nomenclature. Not sure if you perused the interview I posted with him, but it’s a condensed version of his argument from the book.
Yascha Mounk on The Identity Trap
Coleman Hughes interviews Yascha Mounk about how to make the case against the new ideas on race, gender and sexual orientation that have become so influential over the past decade.
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The dems are missing a statesman. We had Obama, but after you are done being president, that is hindered as you have to "leave room for the next person."
Who is going to be "THAT VOICE" that is everywhere all at once? Someone that motivates, inspires and isn't afraid to throw the damn mud, blame with abandon, and point out the damage in real terms?
No one has stepped up in now 8 years. It's time.
Who is going to be "THAT VOICE" that is everywhere all at once? Someone that motivates, inspires and isn't afraid to throw the damn mud, blame with abandon, and point out the damage in real terms?
No one has stepped up in now 8 years. It's time.
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I don’t think it’s fair to call him reactionary, but he’s certainly a liberal centrist. These are strange times; I obviously don’t agree with Mounk on everything, probably not even a majority of things. But he is able to lay out the mistakes of the postmodernist left better than any other author I’ve read on the subject.
I also enjoy his podcast for the same reasons I enjoy this forum. I get to hear from liberals about how they view the world and current events. Like Marx, I came to socialism through liberalism, and I think it holds a lot of fundamental values that leftists of all stripes should find important.
From the perspective of a socialist, Left is Not Woke by Susan Neiman is also excellent.
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Marty, you know what he got here? Motherfuckin Charlie Bronson.
Lookee here, Charlie. None of this bullshit is necessary.
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The Case for a Liberal Socialism
Liberals and socialists typically see themselves as foes. But truly realizing liberal ideals of freedom and equality means building a socialist order — a lesson liberals and socialists alike would do well to remember.
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I look around at all the shit going on and for once, I completely agree with the title of this thread. It just keeps getting worse… and MAGAts just continue to eat shit from daddy Trump.
You guys can argue everyday about what the Dems did wrong or who the voice of the party will be and at the end of the day, none of it matters. Because NOTHING the Dems say/do/support is remotely close to the terrible shit being done by the pubs. They’re literally unraveling the threads of our democracy as we speak. Until that is unacceptable to republicans, the rest of it is just noise.
You guys can argue everyday about what the Dems did wrong or who the voice of the party will be and at the end of the day, none of it matters. Because NOTHING the Dems say/do/support is remotely close to the terrible shit being done by the pubs. They’re literally unraveling the threads of our democracy as we speak. Until that is unacceptable to republicans, the rest of it is just noise.
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How COVID Pushed a Generation of Young People to the Right
Research suggests that pandemics are more likely to reduce rather than build trust in scientific and political authorities.For decades, America’s young voters have been deeply—and famously—progressive. In 2008, a youthquake sent Barack Obama to the White House. In 2016, voters ages 18 to 29 broke for Hillary Clinton by 18 points. In 2020, they voted for Joe Biden by 24 points. In 2024, Donald Trump closed most of the gap, losing voters under 30 by a 51–47 margin. In one recent CBS poll, Americans under 30 weren’t just evenly split between the parties. They were even more pro-Trump than Boomers over 65.
Precisely polling teens and 20-somethings is a fraught business; some surveys suggest that Trump’s advantage among young people might already be fading. But young people’s apparent lurch right is not an American-only trend.
“Far-right parties are surging across Europe—and young voters are buying in,” the journalist Hanne Cokelaere wrote for Politico last year. In France, Germany, Finland, and beyond, young voters are swinging their support toward anti-establishment far-right parties “in numbers equal to and even exceeding older voters.” In Germany, a 2024 survey of 2,000 people showed that young people have adopted a relatively new “gloomy outlook” on the future. No surprise, then, that the far-right Alternative für Deutschland has become the most popular party among Germans under 30. Like most interesting phenomena, this one even has a German name: Rechtsruck, or rightward shift.
What’s driving this global Rechtsruck? It’s hard to say for sure. Maybe the entire world is casting a protest vote after several years of inflation. Last year was the largest wipeout for political incumbents in the developed world since the end of the Second World War. One level deeper, it wasn’t inflation on its own, but rather the combination of weak real economic growth and record immigration that tilled the soil for far-right upstarts, who can criticize progressive governments on both sides of the Atlantic for their failure to look out for their own citizens first.
How COVID Pushed a Generation of Young People to the Right
Research suggests that pandemics are more likely to reduce rather than build trust in scientific and political authorities.
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Wisconsin Democratic governor proposes replacing 'mother' with 'inseminated person' in state law
Wisconsin budget proposal recommends changing 'paternity' to 'parentage,' and 'father' to 'parent' in certain parts of state law
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Wisconsin budget proposal recommends changing 'paternity' to 'parentage,' and 'father' to 'parent' in certain parts of state law
Wisconsin Democratic governor proposes replacing 'mother' with 'inseminated person' in state law
Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers is taking heat for introducing a bill with several changes to gendered language, including using the term "inseminated person" instead of "mother."
First, has anyone noted a suspicious bulge in his cheek that could be caused by a tongue?Wisconsin Democratic governor proposes replacing 'mother' with 'inseminated person' in state law
Wisconsin budget proposal recommends changing 'paternity' to 'parentage,' and 'father' to 'parent' in certain parts of state law
Wisconsin Democratic governor proposes replacing 'mother' with 'inseminated person' in state law
Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers is taking heat for introducing a bill with several changes to gendered language, including using the term "inseminated person" instead of "mother."
Barring that, "Not my monkey, not my circus."
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'New low': Longtime House Dem ripped for 'disgusting' questioning of Musk's loyalty to US as an immigrant
Rep. Marcy Kaptur, D-Ohio, sparked a firestorm on social media over comments questioning DOGE chief Elon Musk’s allegiance to the U.S. given that he has been a citizen for "only" 22 years.
"Mr. Musk has just been here 22 years," Kaptur said outside the Capitol on Wednesday. "And he’s a citizen of three countries. I always ask myself the question, with the damage he’s doing here, when push comes to shove, which country is his loyalty to? South Africa? Canada? Or the United States? And he’s only been a citizen, I’ll say again, 22 years."
'New low': Longtime House Dem ripped for 'disgusting' questioning of Musk's loyalty to US as an immigrant
Rep. Marcy Kaptur, D-Ohio, is facing heat on social media over comments made regarding DOGE chief Elon Musk's allegiance to the U.S. based on his immigration status.
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I think this is a legitimate concern. When one is working to undermine American ideals, customs and laws and can easily flee to another country, it should raise eyebrows.'New low': Longtime House Dem ripped for 'disgusting' questioning of Musk's loyalty to US as an immigrant
Rep. Marcy Kaptur, D-Ohio, sparked a firestorm on social media over comments questioning DOGE chief Elon Musk’s allegiance to the U.S. given that he has been a citizen for "only" 22 years.
"Mr. Musk has just been here 22 years," Kaptur said outside the Capitol on Wednesday. "And he’s a citizen of three countries. I always ask myself the question, with the damage he’s doing here, when push comes to shove, which country is his loyalty to? South Africa? Canada? Or the United States? And he’s only been a citizen, I’ll say again, 22 years."
'New low': Longtime House Dem ripped for 'disgusting' questioning of Musk's loyalty to US as an immigrant
Rep. Marcy Kaptur, D-Ohio, is facing heat on social media over comments made regarding DOGE chief Elon Musk's allegiance to the U.S. based on his immigration status.
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What a shocker. Dumb American voters think Democrats are only focused on the issues right wing media tells them Democrats are focused on.Gift link
Many Americans Say the Democratic Party Does Not Share Their Priorities
A poll from The New York Times and Ipsos found that Americans believe abortion, L.G.B.T.Q. issues and climate change concern Democrats more than the cost of living.www.nytimes.com
Many Americans say they do not believe the Democratic Party is focused on the economic issues that matter most to them and is instead placing too much emphasis on social issues that they consider less urgent.
Asked to identify the Democratic Party’s most important priorities, Americans most often listed abortion, L.G.B.T.Q. rights and climate change, according to a poll from The New York Times and Ipsos conducted from Jan. 2 to 10.
The issues that people cited as most important to them personally were the economy and inflation, health care and immigration, the poll found. The kinds of social causes that progressive activists have championed in recent years ranked much lower.
As Democrats gather in Washington this weekend to elect the next chairman of their party, and debate how to most effectively counter the Trump administration, the latest public opinion surveys contain worrisome signs for them.
The country remains deeply divided over Mr. Trump’s leadership, with roughly equal shares of people saying that his second term is cause for celebration or concern.
But the poll suggests that people do not view the Democratic Party as an appealing alternative.
In a broad sense, the poll, which surveyed a representative sample of 2,128 adults nationwide, found that Americans think the Republican Party is more in sync with the mood of the country. The issues that people said mattered most to Republicans were also, for the most part, the issues that mattered to them: immigration, the economy, inflation and taxes.
We are beyond fucked.
For the love of God, I implore all of you, I beg of you, please destroy some fucking rednecks like your life depends on it. It does, I promise you.
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Please boside better, or stfu. Please and thank you.'New low': Longtime House Dem ripped for 'disgusting' questioning of Musk's loyalty to US as an immigrant
Rep. Marcy Kaptur, D-Ohio, sparked a firestorm on social media over comments questioning DOGE chief Elon Musk’s allegiance to the U.S. given that he has been a citizen for "only" 22 years.
"Mr. Musk has just been here 22 years," Kaptur said outside the Capitol on Wednesday. "And he’s a citizen of three countries. I always ask myself the question, with the damage he’s doing here, when push comes to shove, which country is his loyalty to? South Africa? Canada? Or the United States? And he’s only been a citizen, I’ll say again, 22 years."
'New low': Longtime House Dem ripped for 'disgusting' questioning of Musk's loyalty to US as an immigrant
Rep. Marcy Kaptur, D-Ohio, is facing heat on social media over comments made regarding DOGE chief Elon Musk's allegiance to the U.S. based on his immigration status.