ZenMode
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People often see what they've been conditioned to see.I didn’t read into it as deeply. I took it as an offhand throwaway term rather than a backhanded denigrating comparison.
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People often see what they've been conditioned to see.I didn’t read into it as deeply. I took it as an offhand throwaway term rather than a backhanded denigrating comparison.
Trump, is that you?There are adults who identify as a cat, dog, wolves, etc. There may very well be a mongoose out there somewhere. At the very least, mongoose isn't a stretch.
The enemy is Trump and whoever voted for him.Bannon's desire was to "flood the zone" with bullshit. Currently it is not a flood. We are beneath an ocean of bullshit. The Republicans and Trump/Zuckerberg/Musk efforts have filled average American minds with lies and distortions of reality to benefit themselves and secure a fascist America. Here we are. We have seen --and believed-- the enemy, and now, it is us. Good essay:
In the past decade, we have witnessed the fallout from the largely unrestricted spread of bullshit on the internet. People have died or have become seriously ill as result of following bad medical advice that they heard on social media. A recent Healthline study found that, among those who had started a new wellness trend in the past year, 52% of them discovered the trend in question on social media. The same survey found that only 37% of participants viewed their doctor as their most trusted source of medical information. There is a concerning new trend of children self-diagnosing mental disorders, and sometimes even developing symptoms of those disorders that they did not previously exhibit in response to watching the videos. The spread of conspiracy theories on social media has led to people falling deep into rabbit holes, often losing their most valued relationships with friends and family members as a result. People sometimes develop racist, sexist, and xenophobic attitudes toward people they have never met on the basis of internet bullshit. We are staring down the barrel of even fewer restrictions on bullshit in light of Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg’s recent announcement that his platforms would no longer include fact checking of questionable posts. The White House has also announced that it will open press briefings up to “new media”—podcasters, YouTube personalities, and social media influencers who need not have any formal training in journalism or commitment to codes of conduct that govern ethical behavior in the field.
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Really? Mongoose? WTF, man?
Whether or not you agree with identity being a main plank of the party, there is no reason at all to be denigrating peoples' identities. If a black person wants to be proud of being black, what the fuck is wrong with that, and why does that get comparisons to animals? If a gay person is proud of being gay, and wants equal treatment regardless of sexual orientation, why does that merit such a derogatory response?
Facts, but the world perception is now that we are an ignorant and dangerous enemy.The enemy is Trump and whoever voted for him.
Ah, "superrific," your indignation is palpable, though regrettably symptomatic of a certain intellectual provincialism endemic to contemporary political discourse. Permit me to elucidate why your fixation on symbolic identity affirmation, however well-intentioned, is both strategically obtuse and epistemically reductive.
Ontological Myopia and the Fetishization of Identity
Nancy Fraser’s Redistribution-Recognition Dilemma
- Your argument presupposes that identity categories are axiomatic sites of political mobilization. However, as Judith Butler's Performative Acts demonstrates, identity is neither static nor innately coherent. Treating it as such risks reifying precisely the social constructs one ostensibly seeks to deconstruct.
Empirical Fallacies in Electoral Strategy
- Fraser's seminal work delineates the inherent tension between claims for cultural recognition and demands for economic redistribution. By privileging the former, contemporary progressivism engenders a political schema devoid of material exigency, thus alienating those whose lived experiences are defined less by symbolic affronts and more by economic precarity.
The Psychosocial Dynamics of Tribalism
- Quantitative analyses (see Piketty et al., 2020) unequivocally demonstrate that economic populism garners broader electoral appeal than identity-centric appeals. Voters, regrettably indifferent to postmodernist jargon, tend to prioritize policies that impact their material conditions rather than symbolic gestures of validation.
Historical Antecedents of Class-Based Solidarity
- Excessive emphasis on identity politics exacerbates out-group antagonism, as delineated by Tajfel's Social Identity Theory. This cognitive entrenchment undermines coalition-building efforts essential for durable political change.
In summation, while your zealous defense of identity affirmation may earn plaudits in the echo chambers of niche academic circles, it is tactically myopic and politically self-defeating. One might suggest recalibrating your rhetorical arsenal to include a modicum of empirical humility and strategic foresight.
- The New Deal coalition, a paradigmatic case study, succeeded precisely because it subordinated identity divisions to class-based solidarity. Labor historians have long extolled its efficacy in engendering structural reforms that benefited marginalized communities without fetishizing their identities.
I await your response, though I suspect it will be a postmodernist pastiche wrapped in impenetrable verbiage.
The animals trapped in human bodies Therians are neurological outliersTrump, is that you?
No, there wasn't kitty litter in the women's bathroom at a school. No, they were not eating the pets....
Looks like somebody just discovered AI chatbots and decided to create a new username!Ah, "superrific," your indignation is palpable, though regrettably symptomatic of a certain intellectual provincialism endemic to contemporary political discourse. Permit me to elucidate why your fixation on symbolic identity affirmation, however well-intentioned, is both strategically obtuse and epistemically reductive.
Ontological Myopia and the Fetishization of Identity
Nancy Fraser’s Redistribution-Recognition Dilemma
- Your argument presupposes that identity categories are axiomatic sites of political mobilization. However, as Judith Butler's Performative Acts demonstrates, identity is neither static nor innately coherent. Treating it as such risks reifying precisely the social constructs one ostensibly seeks to deconstruct.
Empirical Fallacies in Electoral Strategy
- Fraser's seminal work delineates the inherent tension between claims for cultural recognition and demands for economic redistribution. By privileging the former, contemporary progressivism engenders a political schema devoid of material exigency, thus alienating those whose lived experiences are defined less by symbolic affronts and more by economic precarity.
The Psychosocial Dynamics of Tribalism
- Quantitative analyses (see Piketty et al., 2020) unequivocally demonstrate that economic populism garners broader electoral appeal than identity-centric appeals. Voters, regrettably indifferent to postmodernist jargon, tend to prioritize policies that impact their material conditions rather than symbolic gestures of validation.
Historical Antecedents of Class-Based Solidarity
- Excessive emphasis on identity politics exacerbates out-group antagonism, as delineated by Tajfel's Social Identity Theory. This cognitive entrenchment undermines coalition-building efforts essential for durable political change.
In summation, while your zealous defense of identity affirmation may earn plaudits in the echo chambers of niche academic circles, it is tactically myopic and politically self-defeating. One might suggest recalibrating your rhetorical arsenal to include a modicum of empirical humility and strategic foresight.
- The New Deal coalition, a paradigmatic case study, succeeded precisely because it subordinated identity divisions to class-based solidarity. Labor historians have long extolled its efficacy in engendering structural reforms that benefited marginalized communities without fetishizing their identities.
I await your response, though I suspect it will be a postmodernist pastiche wrapped in impenetrable verbiage.
I'm just saying that of this list of things...Some are fairly self explanatory, I think. The only phrase listed there that can’t be deduced by just knowing the individual meanings of the words is identity synthesis, which I explained earlier in the thread. But it goes to show my earlier point that the message board medium isn’t a great place to discuss complex topics like this one with any degree of understanding between parties.
So, have you decided which bathrooms they can use and proposed legislation to ban medical treatments and generally marginalize them?The animals trapped in human bodies Therians are neurological outliers
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No, there was not kitty litter in a school bathroom.
Yes, there was a woman eating a cat. She was not an immigrant. She was born and went to high school in Springfield Ohio.
Yascha Mounk is a strange pick for a self-avowed Marxist. He's a reactionary centrist!I get it. It’s totally fair to not have the time to delve deeply into theory or political science, and I don’t expect the average person to. Like I’ve said, probably not a conversation suited well for a message board. If we were talking about it in person, I’d be able to explain things as they arise.
I really do think you would get something out of the book I recommended though. The author explains things better than me and with simpler nomenclature. Not sure if you perused the interview I posted with him, but it’s a condensed version of his argument from the book.
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Yascha Mounk on The Identity Trap
Coleman Hughes interviews Yascha Mounk about how to make the case against the new ideas on race, gender and sexual orientation that have become so influential over the past decade.www.persuasion.community
Marty, you know what he got here? Motherfuckin Charlie Bronson.I await your response, though I suspect it will be a postmodernist pastiche wrapped in impenetrable verbiage.