Many Americans Say the Democratic Party Does Not Share Their Priorities

[Mulberry Heel]

Maybe but the number has stabilized.

We don't know that for certain - it could easily continue dropping, especially if Republicans continue tearing down the separation of church and state. I think America is simply following the same path that most European countries, Australia, and New Zealand took decades ago. Their religious affiliations kept dropping until currently only about 1 in 10 people in those countries regularly attend church today, although higher percentages still call themselves Christian. And while about 60% of Americans still call themselves Christians, the numbers who regularly attend church is lower. According to a 2023 Gallup poll, only 21% of U.S. adults attended church every week, and 11% attended about once a month. That is a decline from 44% in 2000 and 49% in 1958.

 

[TarSpiel]

Doesn’t feel like 60%+ is Christian. Duh.

Okay, "duh"

My question was really, why does it feel that way to you?

 

[HintonJamesHeel]

We don't know that for certain - it could easily continue dropping, especially if Republicans continue tearing down the separation of church and state. I think America is simply following the same path that most European countries, Australia, and New Zealand took decades ago. Their religious affiliations kept dropping until currently only about 1 in 10 people in those countries regularly attend church today, although higher percentages still call themselves Christian. And while about 60% of Americans still call themselves Christians, the numbers who regularly attend church is lower. According to a 2023 Gallup poll, only 21% of U.S. adults attended church every week, and 11% attended about once a month. That is a decline from 44% in 2000 and 49% in 1958.

Well we don’t know anything. The data says it’s stabilized. That’s all we can definitively point to.

 

[HintonJamesHeel]

How many of those people who “identify as Christians” are Christians?

Trump identifies as a Christian. Jerry Falwell, Jr. does. The elder Falwell did.

Does proclaiming, “I’m a Christian” make one a Christian?

Is someone who says, “I’ve accepted Christ as my Lord and savior,” a Christian?

What if they continue to lie, cheat, steal, thieve, fornicate outside of wedlock? Are they Christians?

You could also ask how at atheists pray? Polls say a lot. What do they pray to? What’s the point?

 

[finesse]

Well we don’t know anything. The data says it’s stabilized. That’s all we can definitively point to.

Oh no. We can point out that it's fallen by a third in 60 years. Dropping that much in that sort of time is more significant than a flattening of the curve. That flattening isn't without meaning but if you read deeply into the article, they don't consider it predictive.

 

[finesse]

You could also ask how at atheists pray? Polls say a lot. What do they pray to? What’s the point?

Atheists are as misguided as religious people. The only thing that makes since is some sort of reluctant agnosticism. The universe is too big and old to say there's not one, the very same reasons that there is for thinking that's it's irrelevant if there is.

 

[HintonJamesHeel]

Oh no. We can point out that it's fallen by a third in 60 years. Dropping that much in that sort of time is more significant than a flattening of the curve. That flattening isn't without meaning but if you read deeply into the article, they don't consider it predictive.

Ok. Either way. You want it lower and I’m happy it’s 60%+. Neither of us will dramatically impact it.

 

[finesse]

Ok. Either way. You want it lower and I’m happy it’s 60%+. Neither of us will dramatically impact it.

I don't actually care if it's lower if they left others alone. If they followed what Jesus taught , tried to convert by example, followed the Beatitudes and were willing to shake the dust of their feet and leave when people didn't want to listen, I'd be fine with them.

This halfbaked paternalistic prosperity gospel based on that heretic Paul's bullshit should go.