Mass Deportation and Immigration Catch-All | Trump “Gold Card” path to citizenship for $5 million

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mpaer said:
I wonder how many Biological Males that transitioned played HS Womens sports?? The number
And how many of them were built like Lawrence Taylor
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IMO, this issue for social conservatives has little or nothing to do with transgenders in sports. That's just the excuse. The real issue for them is that transgenders (and non-binary people) exist, period. They want these people to disappear from public life - not seen in movies or television or social media, not to be discussed or referred to at all in schools, and even denied the ability to have gender-affirming surgery and post-surgery care and medications. In Florida under DeSantis the state did just that, even for adults. The clear goal was to force transgender adults to simply leave the state. My guess is that this is eventually what we're going to see Republicans try to do at the national level in the next year or two, especially since they control all three branches of the federal government.

Link: Transgender adults in Florida are blindsided that a new law also limits their access to health care
 
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EhringhausSouth said:
What do the vast majority of the military think about Trump? I know some retired military, ex-military, and just a few active duty folks, they all seem to be either pretty apolitical or generally ok with Trump. But I am asking about the top dogs, like what do they think about Trump. During the Bush administration, I knew active duty, lower on the totem pole guys that were evenly split on GWB, but the few higher ups I knew at the time were generally pretty Pro-GWB/Cheney. But I am not as connected as I was then while in college and doing internships with congressional reps. Just didn;t know if you had any insight here? I can't imagine the top brass would be real thrilled with him.
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I live in a county whose population is triple because of a major military base. This is Trump country. They love him. It’s truly baffling.
 
dukeman92 said:
I live in a county whose population is triple because of a major military base. This is Trump country. They love him. It’s truly baffling.
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Want to hear truly infuriating....I give any vet or family members a 25% discount on classes. I work with veteran's organizations closely to help with veteran housing and homelessness. We both grew up in military families and have tremendous respect for military service. Yet, if I express any political opinion AT ALL, the current military members detest me and love Donald Trump.

It's soul crushing sometimes.
 
wmheel1287 said:
Want to hear truly infuriating....I give any vet or family members a 25% discount on classes. I work with veteran's organizations closely to help with veteran housing and homelessness. We both grew up in military families and have tremendous respect for military service. Yet, if I express any political opinion AT ALL, the current military members detest me and love Donald Trump.

It's soul crushing sometimes.
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I think at least some of that is because many military members come from white working-class backgrounds, and that's Trump's base. I know several retired military (one an Iraq War vet) who grew up in my hometown and came from financially modest backgrounds, and they're all huge Trump fans and are convinced that Democrats hate the military and are basically in league with the devil. But even if they hadn't been in the military I think they would still have the same political and cultural views. But yeah, it is distressing to hear such people love them some Trump, especially after all the nasty things he's said about veterans and the military in general, and that he's a draft dodger.
 


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The executive actions and reviews underway include the return of the program informally known as “remain in Mexico,” which requires migrants to stay in Mexico during their immigration proceedings in the US, revising asylum restrictions, revoking protections for migrants covered by Biden’s humanitarian parole programs and undoing ICE’s enforcement priorities, according to two sources briefed on transition policy discussions.

Another executive order that is being considered would make detention mandatory and call for an end to releasing migrants, which often happens across administrations because of limited federal resources. It’s that type of executive order, sources say, that would pave the way for detaining and eventually, deporting people at a large scale.

Trump’s team is also reviewing regional capability for housing migrants – a process likely to lead to consideration of the construction of new detention facilities in larger metropolitan areas, according to two sources. Homeland Security officials have previously identified multiple cities in which to build up detention capability in preparation for border surges.

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But they are also evaluating a potential national emergency declaration to unlock Pentagon resources – which was done during Trump’s first term and faced lawsuits – and tailoring that declaration to pave the way for expanding detention space, according to one of the sources.

The private sector, which the federal government heavily relies on for detention space, is also preparing to add more beds. In a recent eaomrnings call, CoreCivic CEO Damon Hininger noted the increased need for detention capacity. CoreCivic is one of the largest private prison operators in the US. …”
 
BlooVooDoo said:
When does the minefield come into play? You just know it’s being discussed.
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100%. And while at it, how could “they” stay busy? What if, while in the “holding centers” administered by Geo Group and CoreCivic, they kept their hands busy - maybe with manufacturing rudimentary components of rockets? Oil rigs? Ttump ties?
 
rodoheel said:
Take a bunch of people who are currently working and contributing to the economy, and instead lock them up in detention facilities where the government has to pay for their food, clothing, shelter, and people to guard them.

Brilliant! Checkmate libs!
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Except those are the people who help us get the food to our tables. When food becomes sparse, the first who will be cut off will be those immigrants.

Could be a humanitarian disaster waiting to happen.
 
With the Laken Riley trial starting, illegal immigration is going to be a big topic. The fact that Laken's killer sneaked into the country, committed multiple crimes, wasn't deported and eventually committed murder, is a problem, IMO. People who go to the ports of entry, and follow the correct process, should be on a short leash. People who sneak in should be on an even shorter leash. He should have been returned to Venezuela before he had a chance to kill Laken.
 
ZenMode said:
With the Laken Riley trial starting, illegal immigration is going to be a big topic. The fact that Laken's killer sneaked into the country, committed multiple crimes, wasn't deported and eventually committed murder, is a problem, IMO. People who go to the ports of entry, and follow the correct process, should be on a short leash. People who sneak in should be on an even shorter leash. He should have been returned to Venezuela before he had a chance to kill Laken.
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I’m not intimately familiar with all of the details of the case but from what I am reading he had been previously arrested by both federal and state officials in multiple jurisdictions. Cannot understand how he was still around to be able to commit the murder of Laken Riley.
 
finesse said:
What is the plans for the almost half the illegal immigrants that overstay their visas? Border security doesn't address that.
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Same plan as all the others who don't get deported: Trump will lie and say he fixed it and half the country will believe him.
 
There is some kind of fallacy inherent in the arguments that immigrants are committing crimes but I don’t know if it is a recognized one or has a name.

It is a valid argument to say that immigrants commit crimes at lower rates than the population at large. The response is always that so and so would be alive today if we didn’t have immigrants and while true that seems fallacious considering the crime rate disparity. (I am not using Laken Riley as an example as her perpetrator had previous legal problems which makes that story a bit different.)

IMO that argument boils down to an argument that if we have more people we will have more crime - not necessarily at a higher rate but more in absolute numbers. And of course that is true.

Their argument makes no more sense than saying that we should get rid of people from Burlington because someone in Burlington went to Chapel Hill and committed a crime, a crime that would not have happened had we removed all the people from Burlington 100 miles a way.

Someone needs to develop that thought, maybe wrap it in a mathematical framework, and give it a name.
 
CFordUNC said:
I’m not intimately familiar with all of the details of the case but from what I am reading he had been previously arrested by both federal and state officials in multiple jurisdictions. Cannot understand how he was still around to be able to commit the murder of Laken Riley.
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Confusing to me as well. Situations like this only fuel anti-immigration fire.

I am very sympathetic for the people who come here, want to be good "citizens" and work to send money back to their families in Mexico or wherever.
 
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