Mass Deportation and Immigration Catch-All | Trump “Gold Card” path to citizenship for $5 million

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farce© said:
You must have a long superignore list
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Only a handful. Just checked this thread, it was all one poster. I read through their posts and the ignore feels perfectly justified.
 
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Illegals who commit crimes here are currently deported correct? I know that was happening under Obama, I assume it continued under Trump. I don’t know why they should have to go through court and prison here before being deported, assuming their illegal entry happened first.
 
JeepCSC said:
Illegals who commit crimes here are currently deported correct? I know that was happening under Obama, I assume it continued under Trump. I don’t know why they should have to go through court and prison here before being deported, assuming their illegal entry happened first.
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Depends on the severity. Most likely they would be imprisoned in far worse conditions in Latin America but I don’t think you could tell family of a convicted murder victim that the murderer’s fate is now at the whim of a foreign government.

That is especially true if it were a drug cartel issue where sending the person back might result in his release or escape.
 
ChapelHillSooner said:
Depends on the severity. Most likely they would be imprisoned in far worse conditions in Latin America but I don’t think you could tell family of a convicted murder victim that the murderer’s fate is now at the whim of a foreign government.

That is especially true if it were a drug cartel issue where sending the person back might result in his release or escape.
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Hm, things to ponder. Thanks.
 
Among other issues, has anyone asked the Trump team yet:

1. How they plan to schedule and hold removal hearings for all these people, or if they don’t on what basis they plan to skip removal hearings (required as due process);

2. Where they plan to detain people pending removal hearings and/or deportation; and

3. Where they plan to find the manpower necessary to detain, hold, process, and manage the deportation of these people?
 
rodoheel said:
Among other issues, has anyone asked the Trump team yet:

1. How they plan to schedule and hold removal hearings for all these people, or if they don’t on what basis they plan to skip removal hearings (required as due process);

2. Where they plan to detain people pending removal hearings and/or deportation; and

3. Where they plan to find the manpower necessary to detain, hold, process, and manage the deportation of these people?
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For the third point, I'm sure the GOP would have no trouble hiring plenty of prison guards/thugs to detain people from their base of embittered and resentful beta males who live online 24/7 and hate liberals because "career women" won't date them and they generally have better jobs. Being a prison or detention center guard would be a dream come true for many of these men. They could wear a uniform, carry a gun and nightstick or billy club, strut around and act tough and important, and rough up immigrants and anyone else that Trump 2.0 decides to incarcerate. And they could still spend most of their work time on social media posting selfies of how manly and macho they look now.
 
I'm very curious to see what happens on this issue. The way I see it there are three possible scenarios:

Scenario 1 Hard-Ass: Basically tries to deport everyone. To pay for it, they will slap a tax on remittances (which will in turn open up another revenue stream for the cartels...shipping money tax free). Local law enforcement in border stated is brought into the mix. Minimal due process. Maybe they carve out TPS recipients when they realize that Trump gave out some TPS exceptions. A mass deportation would have a significant impact on construction and agricultural sectors while exacerbating inflation.

Scenario 2 Build the Wall: Kind of like how they built a little bit of wall and pretended that they were close to building the whole thing. Once they see the cost of shipping out millions, they will decide on the dog and pony show. Say some 300k illegals are deported, but the Trump admin makes a big deal about those deportations (daily videos of flights leaving). Most will be illegals who have committed felonies.

Scenario 3 Invitation to leave: Come up with some major threat to induce illegals to self deport (a form of this has happened in the past). Strengthen e-certify to cover every US employer (no one ever talks about the US citizens hiring illegals). There will be some deportations mixed in as well.

All this fails to solve some structural problems with US immigration policy. The economy needs a healthy dose of unskilled labor that relies on migrant labor. It is basically impossible for an unskilled worker to navigate the process to migrate legally. Drastically reducing the number of illegals creates a labor shortage that needs to be resolved somehow (guest worker)...thing is I don't see the MAGAS ever being straight with their base.
 
mpaer said:
Kristen Welker interviewed orangeturd He said deportations will begin with Murderers and rapists, Of course no one has any idea who these folks are-or they would have been arrested-yes even in "sanctuary cities'
So a bunch of ICE guys are going to be the brillant detectives that suddenly "find" all these murderers and rapists Because they can do a better job than NYC detectives .... you bet
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4 yrs ago he said focus would be in criminals, but instead took the easy button and focused on separating families at the border.
 
rodoheel said:
Among other issues, has anyone asked the Trump team yet:

1. How they plan to schedule and hold removal hearings for all these people, or if they don’t on what basis they plan to skip removal hearings (required as due process);

2. Where they plan to detain people pending removal hearings and/or deportation; and

3. Where they plan to find the manpower necessary to detain, hold, process, and manage the deportation of these people?
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IMO it is naive to think that we will have due process. We are about to have thousands of public service employees fired for not being sufficiently loyal. Congress will never remove POTUS from office and the courts have basically given the president immunity presumably even to ignore the courts themselves.

Once there are massive firings in the DOJ and DOD, none of it will matter anyway.

I just hope the generals play along and pretend to be loyal because we may need them in the future. We can’t have them all taking the high road and resigning or letting themselves get fired.
 
“… In an interview with CBS' "60 Minutes" that aired in October, Homan was asked whether there was a way to carry out mass deportations without separating families.

"Of course there is. Families can be deported together," he responded.

Homan is a visiting fellow at the Heritage Foundation, a conservative group. He was a contributor to Project 2025’s Mandate for Leadership book. …”

www.nbcnews.com

Trump announces Tom Homan as incoming border czar

Homan touts hard-line immigration views and has previously vowed to “run the biggest deportation force this country has ever seen.”
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

 
Does Tom Homan realize that blue states have National Guard and that National Guard have guns, if necessary?
 
Calheel said:
Biden had 1.5 million plus deportations and 3 million plus expulsions. 300k would be a drop in the bucket compared to Biden.
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Im talking about the first day. But in the low scenario he'd be north of the Biden number, but not by a huge amount.
 
CFordUNC said:
Does Tom Homan realize that blue states have National Guard and that National Guard have guns, if necessary?
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Yes. He wants to force the decision. Either democrats back down and look weak, or they fight back and it gets spun as anti-American. Fascism craves bloodshed.

Those of you hoping for administrative incompetence, and yes there will be plenty of it, are still not seeing the bigger picture. The rhetoric is already there, and got voted into office. All that is left is the logistics.
 
nycfan said:
“… In an interview with CBS' "60 Minutes" that aired in October, Homan was asked whether there was a way to carry out mass deportations without separating families.

"Of course there is. Families can be deported together," he responded.

Homan is a visiting fellow at the Heritage Foundation, a conservative group. He was a contributor to Project 2025’s Mandate for Leadership book. …”

www.nbcnews.com

Trump announces Tom Homan as incoming border czar

Homan touts hard-line immigration views and has previously vowed to “run the biggest deportation force this country has ever seen.”
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com

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Sounds like a perfect guide for that portion of the Find Out tour.
 
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