Mass Deportation - Planning underway— Tom Homan to be “Border Czar”

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“… The behind-the-scenes discussions, which started months before the election and have picked up in the days since Trump’s victory, include policy changes required to increase deportations, according to people working on the presidential transition, members of Congress and others close to the president-elect.

… Among the changes: revoking a Biden administration policy directing U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement not to pursue immigrants in the country illegally who haven’t committed other crimes, and making changes to the immigration court system to speed up cases. Trump’s allies have said they are planning first to focus on immigrants in the country illegally who have received final orders of deportation from an immigration court, of which there are about 1.3 million, as well as those with other criminal convictions or charges. …”
 
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“… As a first step, Trump’s advisers are discussing issuing a national emergency declaration at the border on his first day in office, which his team thinks would allow him to move money from the Pentagon to pay for wall construction and to assist with immigrant detention and deportation.

But the legality of such a move is unclear.

A national emergency, Trump’s advisers think, also would unlock the ability to use military bases for immigrant detention and military planes to help carry out deportations.

… A critical near-term priority is finding the money to pay for it. An estimate by the American Immigration Council, a liberal immigration group, estimated that an operation to deport the total number of people living in the U.S. illegally could cost $968 billion over more than a decade, or roughly $88 billion a year. …”

So, tariffs? 🤔
 
I find myself having a clinical/academic reaction to this. It was a cornerstone of Trump’s campaign and a big part of what people voted for.

But a lot of the same people were appalled by the child separation policy in his original term, and many of the same folks were outraged but the deportation of one child - Elian Gonzalez - by force back in the day.

Sure, there are going to be people cheering this and ghoulishly enjoying seeing harsh images of deportations, mass incarcerations, etc.

But a lot of Trump supporters are already wishcasting how this will take care of itself via self-deportation before Trump takes office. They will just wake up to find the “illegals” have disappeared from their town without anyone having to suffer any unpleasantness.

We shall see.
 
Back to the WSJ article:

“… They also want to revoke deportation protections from millions of immigrants who have either been granted a form of humanitarian protection known as temporary protected status—which covers hundreds of thousands of Haitians and Venezuelans—or entered the country on a quasi-legal status called humanitarian parole.

That population includes millions who have entered via government appointments at the southern border, as well as tens of thousands of Afghans evacuated after the fall of Kabul and hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians allowed into the U.S. following the Russian invasion.

Rep. Chip Roy (R., Texas), an anti-illegal-immigration hard-liner, said he thinks the Trump administration should disregard those deportation protections because, in his view, they were issued illegally.

“I believe we need to push the boundaries and claim they’ve got no status,” he said. …”
 
“… Rather than forcibly deporting all migrants, Trump’s advisers hope they can induce some to leave voluntarily, according to people familiar with the matter.

They have discussed offering immigrants in the country illegally—or those who entered on parole through Biden administration programs—a chance to leave the country without penalties, so they can return on a visa if they are eligible. Under normal circumstances, when someone is deported, they are barred from returning on a visa for 10 years. [A better idea than most of the others being floated, IMO.]

Republican lawmakers, buoyed by their election gains, are planning to use a process called reconciliation to advance legislation that funds Trump’s immigration proposals alongside his energy and tax priorities. …”
 
NCK9 said:
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And the economic impact of the initial push won’t be felt until later in the year as the agricultural and meat-packing industries, among others, scramble for workers.

But perhaps it will result in a rational work visa program by necessity. I mean, there is zero indication of that at the moment, but presumably the business demand will force some sort of resolution.
 
So will New Jersey LE officers have shootouts with ICE??
Seriously this could be ugly
(Yes I will be pulling for the NJ guys )
 
nycfan said:
I find myself having a clinical/academic reaction to this. It was a cornerstone of Trump’s campaign and a big part of what people voted for.

But a lot of the same people were appalled by the child separation policy in his original term, and many of the same folks were outraged but the deportation of one child - Elian Gonzalez - by force back in the day.

Sure, there are going to be people cheering this and ghoulishly enjoying seeing harsh images of deportations, mass incarcerations, etc.

But a lot of Trump supporters are already wishcasting how this will take care of itself via self-deportation before Trump takes office. They will just wake up to find the “illegals” have disappeared from their town without anyone having to suffer any unpleasantness.

We shall see.
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Regardless of where one stands on the Elian Gonzalez matter, that was not a comparable deportation. That boiled down to a moral question of whether a young kid should be returned to his father from whom he was essentially kidnapped.
 
Icky Mettle said:
Regardless of where one stands on the Elian Gonzalez matter, that was not a comparable deportation. That boiled down to a moral question of whether a young kid should be returned to his father from whom he was essentially kidnapped.
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Don’t disagree but this election has been a good indication that nuance is not a thing in American politics at the moment. How are people going to react to a flood of similar visuals?

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Will there be a new black market in selling firearms to Latino men-to protect their families?
 
The funding for Deportation likely can not poiltically increase the Budget deficit So I guess theywill redirect Infrastructure or CHIPs money not yet spent??
 
nycfan said:
And the economic impact of the initial push won’t be felt until later in the year as the agricultural and meat-packing industries, among others, scramble for workers.

But perhaps it will result in a rational work visa program by necessity. I mean, there is zero indication of that at the moment, but presumably the business demand will force some sort of resolution.
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Don’t worry about worker shortages. Many states have already relaxed child labor regulations. I’m sure more will follow.
 
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