Again, they are doing jobs at a lot lesser pay across the board so dont tell me others wont do the job. They wont do it for that level of pay, correct. Just because you know a few who are paid fairly doesnt mean jack, jack. Reality is the majority are not paid fairly so people can make lots of money off of them. We do agree that the people hiring them illegally are to blame.
So your "experience" counts but not anybody else? Your eyes have to be brown.
I’ll ask again. How much more do the jobs need to pay before reliable American workers will do them? What does that add to the cost typical customers pay for the service you provide?
Everyone has a choice to hire illegals and you are 100% correct no party is going to do anything about it because its about nothing more than greed which both parties are controlled by. Illegals are no diff than guns and drugs...each are too engrained into our way of life. The people saying they are doing jobs legals wont do are fucking lying and are the very people hiring them illegally and profiting greatly from their misfortunes. Lets just be transparent about it and say the large majority are doing jobs at a shit wage so we can make more money. Kudos if you are hiring illegals and paying them a living wage, but you are still breaking a law, albeit a law not enforced. I have made a choice to hire vets who will do shit jobs at a very livable wage at my expense. Ive never had a problem finding workers.....never. i would have a huge problem finding vets who will do shit jobs at a wage illegals will do.
I'd argue that if they committed the murder/rape here that we should incarcerate them unless their host country agrees to jail them there..otherwise I'd worry that if we deport them they will be back in 3 months.
They think these there are a bunch of undocumented murderers and rapists who served their time and then were allowed back in the US population.
Conversely, we have sheriffs in large metros that are refusing to work with ICE when they have 'bad hombres' that are booked for offenses like DUI, assault, theft, or even driving around without insurance. That needs to change.
You are full of shit. My company has made repeated efforts to hire vets, ex-cons, basically anyone. It is a light commercial operation in a relatively large city and we struggle to find anyone to fill line positions - many at wages well above minimum with as much OT as you want and ample opportunity to move up with the least bit of initiative. Well, we have a decent percentage of Venezuelan asylum seekers (some Ukes and SE Asians) and they are BY FAR the best people we have. Only ones who consistently show up on time and work hard all shift. They pay taxes like anyone else and are massive contributors to the economy. We E-verify, so we wind up turning down dozens of folks showing up who want to earn $13-$16/hour with benefits. In a relatively poor part of town, but few American citizens seem interested.
The following example has been posted repeatedly on here to illustrate what mass deportation and cracking down on illegal immigrants does to the economy, but Trumpers just keep conveniently ignoring it. In 2010 Alabama's GOP state government decided to do a major crackdown on illegal immigrants in the state. And it was a disaster. Within weeks farmers (many of them Republican) were complaining that their crops were rotting in the fields because they couldn't find people to pick them, and they started begging the state government to back off. I believe at one point the state was reduced to using convict labor to try and pick crops, but that was a failure too. Eventually the state government relented and backed off. The notion that businesses that rely on immigrant labor will be able to find nearly enough Americans to replace the lost labor is delusional, imo.
You must have a long superignore listThis thread must have gone in incredible directions. My page 7 has four posts
Only a handful. Just checked this thread, it was all one poster. I read through their posts and the ignore feels perfectly justified.
I got the same results and I believe I have three on super ignore.
Depends on the severity. Most likely they would be imprisoned in far worse conditions in Latin America but I don’t think you could tell family of a convicted murder victim that the murderer’s fate is now at the whim of a foreign government.
Hm, things to ponder. Thanks.
For the third point, I'm sure the GOP would have no trouble hiring plenty of prison guards/thugs to detain people from their base of embittered and resentful beta males who live online 24/7 and hate liberals because "career women" won't date them and they generally have better jobs. Being a prison or detention center guard would be a dream come true for many of these men. They could wear a uniform, carry a gun and nightstick or billy club, strut around and act tough and important, and rough up immigrants and anyone else that Trump 2.0 decides to incarcerate. And they could still spend most of their work time on social media posting selfies of how manly and macho they look now.
