Mass Deportation - Planning underway— Tom Homan to be “Border Czar”

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wmheel1287 said:
I would also point out that I don't use those service providers because they are cheap. I use them because they are the best available. The cleaning lady gets $200 and is at the house for less than 4 hours.

But it fucking shines.
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Best damn $200 you ever spent too, ain't it? We have a cleaning lady, lower cost of living area than you most likely, we do $125 for a 2100 sq foot house. But man, comong home after she has been here, amazing! For a few hours, til the kids trash the place again.
 
wmheel1287 said:
I would also point out that I don't use those service providers because they are cheap. I use them because they are the best available. The cleaning lady gets $200 and is at the house for less than 4 hours.

But it fucking shines.
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In 1959 we lived in Decatur Alabama The norm was 25 cents an hour for a cleaning lady Mother would not do that -but for all I know she just upped it to 40 cents
 
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EhringhausSouth said:
Best damn $200 you ever spent too, ain't it? We have a cleaning lady, lower cost of living area than you most likely, we do $125 for a 2100 sq foot house. But man, comong home after she has been here, amazing! For a few hours, til the kids trash the place again.
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No doubt. My only apprehension is in not having her come 2 days a week. 3 big dogs with a dog door...
 
wmheel1287 said:
Lol, you cannot possibly believe that our current legal immigration system can bring in anywhere close to the number of laborers needed and place them where needed when needed.

Which brings us full circle to immigration reform. Remind me again who has been blocking that?
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Lol. Just because it’s a bill doesn’t make it a good bill. It was trash.
 
Callatoroy said:
Lol. Just because it’s a bill doesn’t make it a good bill. It was trash.
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Folks, this is what I've been talking about. Most of these people are not reachable. This assclown has had the bill explained to him many times; he still has no idea what's in it; he can't for his life offer any real critique of it; and he doesn't care in the slightest.

All this talk about better messaging assumes that there's an audience listening. They aren't. They just parse through everything looking to be outraged about something. As this poster will surely be when reminded that he doesn't know what he's talking about. Again.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
That opens them up to exploitation by employers who basically hold the sword of deportation over their heads. And it puts legal workers in competition with workers that can be treated like something on the bottom of your shoe. Of course that is basically happening today so maybe little change.
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Isn’t that what we are already doing with Indian tech workers via H1B?
 
superrific said:
Folks, this is what I've been talking about. Most of these people are not reachable. This assclown has had the bill explained to him many times; he still has no idea what's in it; he can't for his life offer any real critique of it; and he doesn't care in the slightest.

All this talk about better messaging assumes that there's an audience listening. They aren't. They just parse through everything looking to be outraged about something. Again.
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Not only that, it’s been explained to him and others repeatedly that the bill came to be because Mitch McConnell tapped Jim Lankford, one of the most hard core conservative Senators from one of the deepest red states in the country, to create the bill, and it was created with the Democrats literally surrendering on everything- they gave away the whole farm!- and getting nothing in return. In other words, it was the stuff of Republican wet dreams. And they still wouldn’t pass it because Trump told them not to. Now, as it turns out, it was damn smart shrewed politics because it worked in their favor. But just because it worked, and just because it was shrewd to tank it, does not mean that it wasn’t the absolute best bill the Republican party has ever, or will ever, be able to reasonably pass. And yet every single right wing dumb fuck on this board talks about it like it was some Marxist piece of legislation.
 
Callatoroy said:
Because you can't deport 15 million in a vacuum. You can legally bring people in for those you deport where needed.
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Or rather than going through all those gyrations and all that cost, we could just find a way to make those who are already here and doing those jobs legal and be done with it. But leave it to Republicans to figure out a way to go around their elbow to get to their asshole.
 
NCK9 said:
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Serious question. What are the ethics behind investing in this stock? I would not do it personally and I have no idea how sound that would be. If I had to guess, it would have a very big upside for a low probability event and a bigger chance of losing the recent gains which is a significant lbut limited loss. But someone who was willing to take a risk might find it one worth taking.

Also, IMO, one word completely changes the ethics. When the founder used the word "millions" that means he would be complicit in an action that would almost certainly be a significant crime against humanity. The concentration camps required would be unbelievably massive and could not be run in a humane way. (And, no, I am not saying these would be intentional death camps but they almost certainly would not pass humane standards.)
 
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mpaer said:
Well there are "too good" to stoop to such jobs of course
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I would say this. If the economy gets as bad as I think it will, we will find people who will take those jobs because the population will be desperate.

That is not a good thing.

I am 53 and would (as humbly as possible) say I am in very good shape for my age, but I don't know what I could do and not do. But if I could do it and were desperate, I would take a job working construction or doing farm labor. It wouldn't pay the bills but it could subsidize whatever I would have to early withdraw from my 401k. I would also have to consider whether the situation with my son would allow me to do so.
 
NCK9 said:
Isn’t that what we are already doing with Indian tech workers via H1B?
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I would guess that tech workers in general have more power due to their skill level than the average migrant worker has. Lot easier to exploit a low skill worker because finding another is so easy.

This reminds me. I wouldn't put it past Trump to allow some to stay but with conditions that would make them easily exploitable. Say losing a job requires immediate deportation and requires employees to report any change in job status. Have a list of deported immigrants on a waiting list to immediately fill any deportation. That would only work if we deported most of the existing workforce. Goodness it would make so much sense and be so evil.
 
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ChapelHillSooner said:
Serious question. What are the ethics behind investing in this stock? I would not do it personally and I have no idea how sound that would be. If I had to guess, it would have a very big upside for a low probability event and a bigger chance of losing the recent gains which is a significant lbut limited loss. But someone who was willing to take a risk might find it one worth taking.

Also, IMO, one word completely changes the ethics. When the founder used the word "millions" that means he would be complicit in an action that would almost certainly be a significant crime against humanity. The concentration camps required would be unbelievably massive and could not be run in a humane way. (And, no, I am not saying these would be intentional death camps but they almost certainly would not pass humane standards.)
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I expect this slogan will make a comeback.

Arbeit macht frei.
 
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