Mass Shooting & Gun Violence | Shooting at Brown University

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1moretimeagain said:
Flashback 12 hours



An update on the @FBI response at Brown University: @FBIBoston established a command post to intake, develop and analyze leads, and run them to ground. We activated the FBI’s Cellular Analysis Survey Team, to provide critical geolocation capabilities. As a result, early this morning, FBI Boston’s Safe Streets Task Force, with assistance from the @USMarshalsHQ & the@Coventry_RI_PD, detained a person of interest in a hotel room in Coventry, RI, based off a lead by the
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Did Kash use gait analysis again?
 
ZenMode said:
I don't think this is helpful.

Murphy: Trump on ‘deliberate campaign to make violence more likely’​

Sen. Chris Murphy on Sunday accused President Donald Trump of a “deliberate campaign” to make violence more common across the country, just hours after a gunman was taken into custody in connection to a shooting at Brown University.

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Authorities seek Brown University gunman as they release person of interest!
 
ZenMode said:
I don't think this is helpful.

Murphy: Trump on ‘deliberate campaign to make violence more likely’​

Sen. Chris Murphy on Sunday accused President Donald Trump of a “deliberate campaign” to make violence more common across the country, just hours after a gunman was taken into custody in connection to a shooting at Brown University.

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Maybe you would find Senator Warnock's comment more helpful...

“Any nation that tolerates this kind of violence year after year, decade after decade in random places on our college and school campuses without doing all that we can to stop it is broken and in need of moral repair,” said Warnock, who is also a preacher.
 
ZenMode said:
I don't think this is helpful.

Murphy: Trump on ‘deliberate campaign to make violence more likely’​

Sen. Chris Murphy on Sunday accused President Donald Trump of a “deliberate campaign” to make violence more common across the country, just hours after a gunman was taken into custody in connection to a shooting at Brown University.

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Deliberate would seem to imply quite a bit more presence of mind than trump exhibits.
 
heelinhell said:
Maybe you would find Senator Warnock's comment more helpful...

“Any nation that tolerates this kind of violence year after year, decade after decade in random places on our college and school campuses without doing all that we can to stop it is broken and in need of moral repair,” said Warnock, who is also a preacher.
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I don't have a problem with that comment.
 
ZZLPHeels said:
It isn't so much that we tolerate it. There's just not much we can do about it.
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Yeah. It just sucks so much. I know that we've got an ungodly number of guns in circulation so that spilled milk ain't going back into the carton, but it just seems like we don't have any appetite (or ability?) to pass any gun safety reform whatsoever. Just feels so dystopian.
 
CFordUNC said:
This is purely rhetorical but why in the world do we as a collective American society tolerate living like this?
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Because as a society for at least my entire life and several decades before it, we have been completely beholden to whatever interests spend the most money no matter the societal cost. For at least the last 70 years, we have had no actual soul as a nation beyond "highest bidder". How long did we tolerate the lies about cigarettes? Just like everyone knew they killed, everyone knows it is the guns but allows themselves to be cowed by the big spenders in our governance.
 
CFordUNC said:
Yeah. It just sucks so much. I know that we've got an ungodly number of guns in circulation so that spilled milk ain't going back into the carton, but it just seems like we don't have any appetite (or ability?) to pass any gun safety reform whatsoever. Just feels so dystopian.
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I guess it is like having a neighbor that keeps you up every night by blasting loud music. Your town has an ordinance that says that anything under 80 DB is acceptable. The police have been over numerous times and the noise level on your property is at 78 DB so they can't do anything about it. You can try getting a new ordinance passed to lower the DB threshold, but you need 70% of your town to vote in favor of that idea and 60% of the town is friends with your neighbor and loves going over to his house to party, so you really don't have any good options.
 
CFordUNC said:
Yeah. It just sucks so much. I know that we've got an ungodly number of guns in circulation so that spilled milk ain't going back into the carton, but it just seems like we don't have any appetite (or ability?) to pass any gun safety reform whatsoever. Just feels so dystopian.
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Things can change and they can change pretty quickly. Obama's public position was against gay marriage when he was running the first time because that was what the electorate wanted. By the end of his second term, most States had legalized it including States like Alaska and South Carolina, and the supreme Court had effectively legalized it nationwide. It hasn't been that long since recreational marijuana was legalized in Washington and Colorado in 2012 and now the majority of the states have effectively legalized it.

In other words, I share your frustration but don't give up hope. Unthinkable public policy can become a reality... And the NRA isn't as powerful as they once were.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
Things can change and they can change pretty quickly. Obama's public position was against gay marriage when he was running the first time because that was what the electorate wanted. By the end of his second term, most States had legalized it including States like Alaska and South Carolina, and the supreme Court had effectively legalized it nationwide. It hasn't been that long since recreational marijuana was legalized in Washington and Colorado in 2012 and now the majority of the states have effectively legalized it.

In other words, I share your frustration but don't give up hope. Unthinkable public policy can become a reality... And the NRA isn't as powerful as they once were.
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Good points and good reminder. It's just so disheartening. I think of all of the things that anger or frustrate me about our politics in America, the gun issue is the one that personally antagonizes (and terrifies) me the most, which I suppose is why I get so easily emotionally triggered by it. Just so maddening.
 
ZZLPHeels said:
I guess it is like having a neighbor that keeps you up every night by blasting loud music. Your town has an ordinance that says that anything under 80 DB is acceptable. The police have been over numerous times and the noise level on your property is at 78 DB so they can't do anything about it. You can try getting a new ordinance passed to lower the DB threshold, but you need 70% of your town to vote in favor of that idea and 60% of the town is friends with your neighbor and loves going over to his house to party, so you really don't have any good options.
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Yep. Though more accurately, it's like 30% of the town is friends with your neighbor and another 30% really just doesn't want to get involved so they just try to ignore it.
 
ZZLPHeels said:
I guess it is like having a neighbor that keeps you up every night by blasting loud music. Your town has an ordinance that says that anything under 80 DB is acceptable. The police have been over numerous times and the noise level on your property is at 78 DB so they can't do anything about it. You can try getting a new ordinance passed to lower the DB threshold, but you need 70% of your town to vote in favor of that idea and 60% of the town is friends with your neighbor and loves going over to his house to party, so you really don't have any good options.
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not bad but i think it's more like 20% of the town loves going to the neighbor's house to party and they get their drugs from a rich, powerful dealer who tells the town to leave the party house alone.

polls show that things like universal background checks and mandatory waiting periods are hugely popular (80+ % and high support even amongst gun owners) but we still can't get them passed.
 
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