Cool. That would be relevant for a discussion about gun control in, say, Lithuania. I think we are discussing the United States right now, though.Drugs are also illegal in countries where there is very little to no gun violence.
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Cool. That would be relevant for a discussion about gun control in, say, Lithuania. I think we are discussing the United States right now, though.Drugs are also illegal in countries where there is very little to no gun violence.
Outlawing guns does nothing to stop criminals from having guns.
If someone believes that, why even have a discussion with them?
I didn't say I was fine with that. I said that is reality. What you are proposing is your own idealized reality, but it is not the one that we live in. We have to accept reality. We are under no obligation to accept delusions.You already said you are fine with law-abiding citizens getting shot, remember?
You brought drugs into the discussion.Cool. That would be relevant for a discussion about gun control in, say, Lithuania. I think we are discussing the United States right now, though.
Are we now talking about Lithuania?Are you aware that many drugs have been outlawed for the last half-century? Are you aware that people still have next to zero difficulty obtaining those drugs after fifty years of enforcement?
So, it is reality that some people (but far, far fewer) will get shot if guns are illegal.I didn't say I was fine with that. I said that is reality.
Yes, in the US.You brought drugs into the discussion.
No, we are talking about the US despite your efforts to drive the discussion to gun laws in other countries.Are we now talking about Lithuania?
Guns aren’t illegal. That’s the point. That isn’t reality. It is your fantasy.So, it is reality that some people (but far, far fewer) will get shot if guns are illegal.
Again, you want this reasoning to only go one way.
Guys, so glad we got rid of drugs by outlawing them 50 years ago. That was easy! No one has overdosed and died since the 80s.Guys, the best solution is to enforce the current gun laws.
Also, we can’t change the law because laws don’t make a difference.
What is your solution?Guns aren’t illegal. That’s the point. That isn’t reality. It is your fantasy.
We can’t, because of a little thing called the 2A. Are you new here?What is your solution?
How about we make guns illegal?
We can’t, because they are legal.
Brilliant.
Exactly. You argue that all we need to do is enforce gun laws, then in the next breath proclaim that laws make no difference. That was my point.Guys, so glad we got rid of drugs by outlawing them 50 years ago. That was easy! No one has overdosed and died since the 80s.
This was addressed many times already.We can’t, because of a little thing called the 2A. Are you new here?
you’re an idiotbet big money shooter was on at least one of the many toxic 'mental' health drugs that our society is prescribed by so-called mental health experts. we are a pill popping freak society that has zero coping skills and zero perspective about what life really is. flight or fight lmmfao people believe that garbage bc someone bought a degree and its hangin on a wall.
Exactly. You argue that all we need to do is enforce gun laws, then in the next breath proclaim that laws make no difference. That was my point.