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But on Fox, it may land him a prime time spot.
Meanwhile on Fox News … and other right wing media
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I am not very knowledgeable on this subject But I think the unique tax laws for Oil Exploraton have been essentially a multigazzillion dollar "subsidy" for OIL/Gas-for decades and decades??????Sorry, I didn't read it well.
I obviously took it incorrectly. He really does align with trump's do nothing approach.
I am hopefully for fusion or more nuclear.
I got off track on the subsidies point. My thinking is that wind and solar may be past the tipping point and not really need the subsidies, I guess his point was more they can't survive without them.
Thanks for sticking with me.
That AND our policing the Persian Gulf and Middle East for decades.
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Keeping in mind that according to our board MAGAs, MSNBC and Fox are just the same...
I look forward to ram, callatory, and other bosiding MAGAs coming here to express their shock and outage and to call on Fox to fire Kilmeade with a network apology to the public.
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Is that the type of thing you can actually walk back? Seems like he crossed the rubicon with that one.
Also, with all the statements people make that cause them to lose jobs, how does a TV personality keep a job after saying something like that … on their TV show?
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Remember Matt Dowd being fired by MSNBC for saying that Kirk's hate speech may have fueled the violence that claimed his life ?
good times...
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Because Faux “news” isn’t a news organization. It’s entertainment for people whose parents are related.
Lol. They won’t. They already know that their bosides claim is a running joke. They’re fine with it.
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I am sure Fox demanded this limp apology to gesture at clean hands while they run 24/7 coverage of ordinary Americans who should lose their jobs for exercise of free speech, be it the audacity of resisting the canonization of Saint Charlie or more repugnant celebrations of Kirk’s murder.
I very much doubt they will support sparing any of their targets of anti-CK statements when/if those targets offer a similarly tepid or even genuinely robust apology.
I very much doubt they will support sparing any of their targets of anti-CK statements when/if those targets offer a similarly tepid or even genuinely robust apology.
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Calla, to his credit, has been very critical of the right wing’s speech regarding Kirk. I know Kilmeade’s comment was about the guy in Charlotte, but maybe there’s some hope that the right has gone SO far over the line that even some dyed in the wool MAGAs are getting uncomfortable with it.
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Fox News has no rubicon besides what costs them in a liable suit. "The homeless" can't sue so....
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I have not seen Calla's critique regarding Kirk's hate speech which has inspired tens of thousands of young white males to hate the other.
If he has, then good for him and I hope he will follow up with a critique of Fox News for platforming Kirk' s hate speech .
Meantime I'm hoping he will come here and condemn Killmeade's solution to the mentally ill and homeless crisis. During that interview even the guest only advocated throwing the homeless and mentally ill in jail.
So my question to Calla is, should Kilmeade be fired today, and should the Fox network issue a public apology for that disturbing interview and the tacit approval of Kilmeade's co-hosts ?
I hope he will weigh in on this thread...but I'm not holding my breath.
ETA : I see you are engaged with Calla and other board members on another thread about what Dems need to do to save our country. I like this engagement because it is civil and a rational discussion/debate between liberals and conservatives. We need more of that.
So I'm guessing he may not have time to visit this thread.
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Did this ever make it's way here?
www.theguardian.com
Fox News employees expressed concerns about the network’s editorial standards and the conduct of top hosts in an internal survey conducted in the summer and fall of 2020, with one going as far as to wonder if they had sold their “soul to the devil”, according to legal filings.
The employees’ statements were excerpted in a 771-page filing released last week, made public as part of a defamation lawsuit filed against the network by voting technology company Smartmatic.
The comments come from an anonymous internal survey – the “Fox News 2020 Great Place to Work Trust Index Survey” – of 1,040 employees conducted between 24 August 2020 and 8 September 2020. Several employees expressed concerns that the network was intentionally aiding Donald Trump and the Republican party.
One anonymous employee said that Fox should “change the misogynist, racist, rightwing content”, adding: “Fox News is a propaganda machine for the Republican party NOT a news organization and should be acknowledged as such. It is embarrassing to tell people that I work here as even conservatives know [Fox News Channel] and [Fox Business Network] are biased information sources – not news.” While the employee called the work environment “great”, they said “the content is hateful and has made the world a more divided and angry place”.
“I sometimes go home fighting back tears,” an employee said. “This network made me question my morals. Have I sold my soul to the devil?”
An employee said the network should “get out of Trump’s pocket” and realize that its most prominent hosts – including Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity – “are a total embarrassment, peddling BS and conspiracy theories”. “Many days I feel like I am part of the problem and FNC is contributing to hatred in this country,” the person said.
“This company aligns itself with the current administration and has lost its integrity,” an employee said. “I wish there was purpose for what we do other than pushing the brand, ideology and political will of [the president],” another comment read.
Many of the comments dealt specifically with the network’s conservative opinion hosts, rather than its news division. “I wish that management would crack down on conspiracy theories and hateful rhetoric spewed by such hosts,” an employee said. “We need to stand up for our real journalists and have more focus on news gathering and reporting to change our credibility and the way we are perceived.”
An employee asked for “a commitment from opinion hosts/producers to only tell viewers the truth, and to bolster their arguments with hard, proven facts given in full context, rather than spin or reckless conjecture that causes harm to real people”.
Fox has said that the survey responses are irrelevant to Smartmatic’s case because they were made months prior to the network’s coverage of the 2020 presidential election, which was the basis of the lawsuit. “There is no connection between these comments and the states of mind of the individuals responsible for the at-issue statements,” the network said in response, referring to the on-air comments made by such hosts as Jeanine Pirro and Lou Dobbs. The organization that conducted the survey, Great Place to Work, ultimately certified Fox as one of the best places to work in 2020, with the vast majority of network employees endorsing it as an employer. It’s also not clear whether the quotes cited in the filing come from a wide swath of employees or from a few particular ones.
But Smartmatic believes the critical comments from employees provide evidence that Fox executives were on notice of internal concerns about what the network was airing. The company has also argued that Fox’s board of directors failed to act on the results of the survey, which it said provided a “stark warning” about the network’s programming.
A few employees quoted in the survey called directly for the imposition of new editorial guidelines. “I would suggest FOX put in some general ethical guidelines or positions overseeing editorial content so that we can limit the spread of insensitive and/or false information, racism and xenophobia,” one said.
One employee expressed a belief that “there’s a fear that we cannot anger the president or his most zealous supporters, and have abdicated all pretense of truthful reporting”, a comment in line with Smartmatic’s contention that Fox pivoted to a strategy of embracing Trump’s election-denying claims out of a fear of alienating viewers. (Fox has denied such a “pivot” and argued that it did not defame Smartmatic in its coverage of the 2020 election.)
In a legal document responding to Smartmatic’s assertions, Fox did not dispute the employee quotes but said that many of them are “incomplete”.
Fox News employees expressed concerns network was intentionally aiding Trump, legal filings reveal
Fox News employees expressed concerns network was intentionally aiding Trump, legal filings reveal
Survey responses cited in $2.7bn defamation lawsuit filed against Fox by voting technology company Smartmatic
Fox News employees expressed concerns about the network’s editorial standards and the conduct of top hosts in an internal survey conducted in the summer and fall of 2020, with one going as far as to wonder if they had sold their “soul to the devil”, according to legal filings.
The employees’ statements were excerpted in a 771-page filing released last week, made public as part of a defamation lawsuit filed against the network by voting technology company Smartmatic.
The comments come from an anonymous internal survey – the “Fox News 2020 Great Place to Work Trust Index Survey” – of 1,040 employees conducted between 24 August 2020 and 8 September 2020. Several employees expressed concerns that the network was intentionally aiding Donald Trump and the Republican party.
One anonymous employee said that Fox should “change the misogynist, racist, rightwing content”, adding: “Fox News is a propaganda machine for the Republican party NOT a news organization and should be acknowledged as such. It is embarrassing to tell people that I work here as even conservatives know [Fox News Channel] and [Fox Business Network] are biased information sources – not news.” While the employee called the work environment “great”, they said “the content is hateful and has made the world a more divided and angry place”.
“I sometimes go home fighting back tears,” an employee said. “This network made me question my morals. Have I sold my soul to the devil?”
An employee said the network should “get out of Trump’s pocket” and realize that its most prominent hosts – including Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity – “are a total embarrassment, peddling BS and conspiracy theories”. “Many days I feel like I am part of the problem and FNC is contributing to hatred in this country,” the person said.
“This company aligns itself with the current administration and has lost its integrity,” an employee said. “I wish there was purpose for what we do other than pushing the brand, ideology and political will of [the president],” another comment read.
Many of the comments dealt specifically with the network’s conservative opinion hosts, rather than its news division. “I wish that management would crack down on conspiracy theories and hateful rhetoric spewed by such hosts,” an employee said. “We need to stand up for our real journalists and have more focus on news gathering and reporting to change our credibility and the way we are perceived.”
An employee asked for “a commitment from opinion hosts/producers to only tell viewers the truth, and to bolster their arguments with hard, proven facts given in full context, rather than spin or reckless conjecture that causes harm to real people”.
Fox has said that the survey responses are irrelevant to Smartmatic’s case because they were made months prior to the network’s coverage of the 2020 presidential election, which was the basis of the lawsuit. “There is no connection between these comments and the states of mind of the individuals responsible for the at-issue statements,” the network said in response, referring to the on-air comments made by such hosts as Jeanine Pirro and Lou Dobbs. The organization that conducted the survey, Great Place to Work, ultimately certified Fox as one of the best places to work in 2020, with the vast majority of network employees endorsing it as an employer. It’s also not clear whether the quotes cited in the filing come from a wide swath of employees or from a few particular ones.
But Smartmatic believes the critical comments from employees provide evidence that Fox executives were on notice of internal concerns about what the network was airing. The company has also argued that Fox’s board of directors failed to act on the results of the survey, which it said provided a “stark warning” about the network’s programming.
A few employees quoted in the survey called directly for the imposition of new editorial guidelines. “I would suggest FOX put in some general ethical guidelines or positions overseeing editorial content so that we can limit the spread of insensitive and/or false information, racism and xenophobia,” one said.
One employee expressed a belief that “there’s a fear that we cannot anger the president or his most zealous supporters, and have abdicated all pretense of truthful reporting”, a comment in line with Smartmatic’s contention that Fox pivoted to a strategy of embracing Trump’s election-denying claims out of a fear of alienating viewers. (Fox has denied such a “pivot” and argued that it did not defame Smartmatic in its coverage of the 2020 election.)
In a legal document responding to Smartmatic’s assertions, Fox did not dispute the employee quotes but said that many of them are “incomplete”.
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They never used to talk like this to your face, moron.I wonder who are the types that could have legitimized this?
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How the hell could you work for Fox in any capacity over the past quarter-century and not know that they are simply a GOP propaganda machine, and that includes doing everything possible to elect Trump in 2016, 2020, and 2024? These people are delusional ("I would suggest Fox put in some general ethical guidelines") if they think their employer gives a shit about "ethical guidelines".Did this ever make it's way here?
Fox News employees expressed concerns network was intentionally aiding Trump, legal filings reveal
Fox News employees expressed concerns network was intentionally aiding Trump, legal filings reveal
Survey responses cited in $2.7bn defamation lawsuit filed against Fox by voting technology company Smartmatic
Fox News employees expressed concerns about the network’s editorial standards and the conduct of top hosts in an internal survey conducted in the summer and fall of 2020, with one going as far as to wonder if they had sold their “soul to the devil”, according to legal filings.
The employees’ statements were excerpted in a 771-page filing released last week, made public as part of a defamation lawsuit filed against the network by voting technology company Smartmatic.
The comments come from an anonymous internal survey – the “Fox News 2020 Great Place to Work Trust Index Survey” – of 1,040 employees conducted between 24 August 2020 and 8 September 2020. Several employees expressed concerns that the network was intentionally aiding Donald Trump and the Republican party.
One anonymous employee said that Fox should “change the misogynist, racist, rightwing content”, adding: “Fox News is a propaganda machine for the Republican party NOT a news organization and should be acknowledged as such. It is embarrassing to tell people that I work here as even conservatives know [Fox News Channel] and [Fox Business Network] are biased information sources – not news.” While the employee called the work environment “great”, they said “the content is hateful and has made the world a more divided and angry place”.
“I sometimes go home fighting back tears,” an employee said. “This network made me question my morals. Have I sold my soul to the devil?”
An employee said the network should “get out of Trump’s pocket” and realize that its most prominent hosts – including Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity – “are a total embarrassment, peddling BS and conspiracy theories”. “Many days I feel like I am part of the problem and FNC is contributing to hatred in this country,” the person said.
“This company aligns itself with the current administration and has lost its integrity,” an employee said. “I wish there was purpose for what we do other than pushing the brand, ideology and political will of [the president],” another comment read.
Many of the comments dealt specifically with the network’s conservative opinion hosts, rather than its news division. “I wish that management would crack down on conspiracy theories and hateful rhetoric spewed by such hosts,” an employee said. “We need to stand up for our real journalists and have more focus on news gathering and reporting to change our credibility and the way we are perceived.”
An employee asked for “a commitment from opinion hosts/producers to only tell viewers the truth, and to bolster their arguments with hard, proven facts given in full context, rather than spin or reckless conjecture that causes harm to real people”.
Fox has said that the survey responses are irrelevant to Smartmatic’s case because they were made months prior to the network’s coverage of the 2020 presidential election, which was the basis of the lawsuit. “There is no connection between these comments and the states of mind of the individuals responsible for the at-issue statements,” the network said in response, referring to the on-air comments made by such hosts as Jeanine Pirro and Lou Dobbs. The organization that conducted the survey, Great Place to Work, ultimately certified Fox as one of the best places to work in 2020, with the vast majority of network employees endorsing it as an employer. It’s also not clear whether the quotes cited in the filing come from a wide swath of employees or from a few particular ones.
But Smartmatic believes the critical comments from employees provide evidence that Fox executives were on notice of internal concerns about what the network was airing. The company has also argued that Fox’s board of directors failed to act on the results of the survey, which it said provided a “stark warning” about the network’s programming.
A few employees quoted in the survey called directly for the imposition of new editorial guidelines. “I would suggest FOX put in some general ethical guidelines or positions overseeing editorial content so that we can limit the spread of insensitive and/or false information, racism and xenophobia,” one said.
One employee expressed a belief that “there’s a fear that we cannot anger the president or his most zealous supporters, and have abdicated all pretense of truthful reporting”, a comment in line with Smartmatic’s contention that Fox pivoted to a strategy of embracing Trump’s election-denying claims out of a fear of alienating viewers. (Fox has denied such a “pivot” and argued that it did not defame Smartmatic in its coverage of the 2020 election.)
In a legal document responding to Smartmatic’s assertions, Fox did not dispute the employee quotes but said that many of them are “incomplete”.
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