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superrific said:
1. No, presidents have not been pushing the boundaries of executive power anywhere close to this. It's telling that you always have to resort to bullshit both-sides shit. There is a massive chasm between a vaccine mandate (well established in American history) and targeting law firms or universities because of what they teach or who they represent. That is unprecedented -- certainly unprecedented in the modern era.

2. They decided to narrowly cast their comedy? So they just decided they wanted smaller audiences? First off, that doesn't in any way justify censorship. But second, the fact that you think Gutfield is amusing should tell you how their audience splintered. Your sense of humor and my sense of humor are very different. Late night shows have been joking about the president and politics for as long as I can remember. SNL certainly has. What's changed is that a big part of America turned into snowflakes and decided that criticizing Trump was blasphemy. That is not the shows to blame.

3. It boils down so much to silly MAGAs who thought Trump would be great despite liberals telling them, no he really won't. And they know he's horrible, which is why all of his policies poll underwater. But to admit that he himself is horrible is to admit error, and that is something that MAGAs just can't do.

Including you.
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SNL is funny and it makes fun of Trump and Republicans and occasionally Democrats
Colbert and Kimmel are not funny. They don't even really make jokes anymore - just recite cheap, liberal talking points for their progressive audience to stomp and clap.

The Ivy League universities were "targeted" because they were refusing to protect the civil rights of Jewish students. I guess Kennedy targeted The universities of Alabama and Mississippi by federalizing the national guard to protect the civil rights of the black students?
 
Centerpiece said:
The FCC has little control over content on cable networks because they transmit signals through wires and cables, not the public airwaves. Unlike with broadcast TV, the FCC has very limited regulations on cable content, including indecency standards.

The FCC generally does not regulate internet streaming platforms like Netflix, Hulu, or Amazon Prime. Congress has not granted (not yet anyway) the FCC explicit authority over the content on these platforms, which are not transmitted over public airwaves.

Streaming companies do not face the same ownership limits as traditional media, meaning a single service could theoretically serve the entire U.S. market without triggering regulatory concerns.
Net neutrality: The FCC's involvement with the internet primarily relates to the transmission paths, such as enforcing net neutrality rules that affect how internet service providers (ISPs) manage web traffic.

Cable, less regulated than broadcast, still uses a form of physical infrastructure. The internet, however, is an entirely different transmission model. Streaming platforms leverage this infrastructure but are not subject to the same regulatory framework because their distribution is not limited by the same public resource constraints.

Now, any of the owners can certainly pull the plug or silence the talent or the influencers, but the FCC itself holds little to no sway. But your point is taken. Trump (not the FCC) can put pressure on the owners and coerce them. We’re seeing that in real time.
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I know everything you posted but none of it contradicts what I said.

Take Comcast. They own NBC. That means they are not only in the cable and internet business but also in the broadcast business or their affiliates are.

That means the FCC could put pressure on Comcast’s broadcast business (NBC) unless Comcast filters websites that promote liberal voices. They wouldn’t directly control the non-broadcast entities but they could indirectly do so using the exact same mob like tactics they are using now.

You mentioned streaming services but if you control the last few miles then you effectively control the internet. If internet providers block Hulu because of content on Hulu, Hulu will capitulate.

As for other providers that are not in the broadcast business, they will use other levers of government, not necessarily the FCC. They are already exerting enough pressure on entities like Google who seem willing to capitulate.

That was all in the post you quoted.
 
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Ramrouser said:
SNL is funny and it makes fun of Trump and Republicans and occasionally Democrats
Colbert and Kimmel are not funny. They don't even really make jokes anymore - just recite cheap, liberal talking points for their progressive audience to stomp and clap.

The Ivy League universities were "targeted" because they were refusing to protect the civil rights of Jewish students. I guess Kennedy targeted The universities of Alabama and Mississippi by federalizing the national guard to protect the civil rights of the black students?
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You say they are not funny. I've never been a huge Colbert fan but Kimmel is funny, in my view. I mean, the folks you find funny don't make jokes either.

If anti-semitism was the issue, then why did the administration try to insist on so much more than that? Harvard and Columbia and all of the schools had already committed to the remedies provided by the civil rights act and applicable regulations.

And it stretches belief to think that the party that has been steeped in anti-Semitism for, oh I don't know, my whole life is genuinely responding to anti-Semitism as opposed to using it as a transparent excuse.

But anyway, here we go again. You will always make excuses for authoritarianism so long as it doesn't affect you. Keep that in mind when it does.
 


“…They’re licensed. They’re not allowed to do that.”
 
ChapelHillSooner said:
I know everything you posted but none of it contradicts what I said.

Take Comcast. They own NBC. That means they are not only in the cable and internet business but also in the broadcast business or their affiliates are.

That means the FCC could put pressure on Comcast’s broadcast business (NBC) unless Comcast filters websites that promote liberal voices. They wouldn’t directly control the non-broadcast entities but they could indirectly do so using the exact same mob like tactics they are using now.

You mentioned streaming services but if you control the last few miles then you effectively control the internet. If internet providers block Hulu because of content on Hulu, Hulu will capitulate.

As for other providers that are not in the broadcast business, they will use other levers of government, not necessarily the FCC. They are already exerting enough pressure on entities like Google who seem willing to capitulate.

That was all in the post you quoted.
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Not trying to contradict anything or anybody. You must not have read my last line where I said "your point is taken". Just like your point above. Well said, well taken. I think we're on the same side here and simply discussing the finer points. You say what the FCC can and can't do doesn't really matter and I agree to that. I said what I said (actually I just googled it, copied and pasted) and only assume it's accurate information. Of course Trump wins again. Aren't you tired of winning? I am.
 
Ramrouser said:
I reject the premise of your argument - that Kimmel was suspended due to "threats" from the FCC. Superficially, it appears that way. Sinclair and Nexstar used the FCC comment as their opportunity to pull the Kimmel show from their stations due to low ratings and the show's hostility to a majority of their audiences in more rural areas. It was a commercial decision which I'm fine with.
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This is unmitigated bullshit. It was a "commercial decision" because Nexstar needs approval from this corrupt administration for their merger with Tegna.

Trump has already signaled he will be going after others in the media for speech he doesn't like. Take off your orange-colored glasses.
 
I am going to have to look at my Disney/ESPN+ add on with Hulu. Hate to be this way but I am not getting rid of ESPN+ during football season. I don't look forward to anything like I do college football. If I can get rid of Disney and keep ESPN+/HBOMAX and save some money then I'll do it. (If I can't save money by doing it then that would mean the change would have no impact on the corporation.)

Looking at the options (which are confusing) it doesn't look like it would be easy to drop Disney and keep ESPN+ and HBOMAX. I might just drop Hulu live and look at YouTube.

I did look and among the major Raleigh networks it appears that CBS is the only one that is Sinclair or Nexstar. That is easy to avoid.
 
DiehardHeelFan said:
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Not a surprise given how right-wing and MAGA this media conglomerate is - but it's still ridiculous seeing them slam Kimmel for "inappropriate and deeply offensive" comments while no mention of Gutfeld downplaying and basically dismissing Melissa Hortman's death, Kilmeade's comments, or Jesse Watter's comments on his show about Trumpers now being "at war" with liberals and lots of other nonsense. That Sinclair keeps buying up more and more local TV stations around the country is just more evidence that any Trumper claim to be opposed to cancel culture or censorship is a total joke.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
Not a surprise given how right-wing and MAGA this media conglomerate is - but it's still ridiculous seeing them slam Kimmel for "inappropriate and deeply offensive" comments while no mention of Gutfeld downplaying and basically dismissing Melissa Hortman's death, Kilmeade's comments, or Jesse Watter's comments on his show about Trumpers now being "at war" with liberals and lots of other nonsense. That Sinclair keeps buying up more and more local TV stations around the country is just more evidence that any Trumper claim to be opposed to cancel culture or censorship is a total joke.
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Or Charlie Kirk’s comments for that matter. You know, the guy they’re paying tribute to.
 
LOL. For a federal judge to dismiss a complaint within the same week it is filed is HIGHLY unusual. Humiliating for the lawyers who signed their names to the complaint. Merryday is a Republican with a long, distinguished career on the bench -- a GHWB appointee.


In a ruling dripping with derision, a federal judge has rejected President Trump’s defamation lawsuit against The New York Times, asserting that the rambling 85-page suit did not follow federal rules for filing civil complaints.

The president’s team has been given a month to refile, and a Trump spokesperson indicated that they will do so.

Judge Steven D. Merryday of the US District Court for the Middle District of Florida said Friday that the suit “stands unmistakably and inexcusably athwart the requirements of Rule 8” of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.

A complaint must be a “short, plain, direct statement of allegations of fact,” he wrote, and Trump’s broadside against The Times was “decidedly improper and impermissible.”

Merryday said Trump’s legal team can refile in the next four weeks, but must keep the complaint to 40 pages or fewer.

A complaint is not supposed to be “a public forum for vituperation and invective” or “a megaphone for public relations,” he said.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
Not a surprise given how right-wing and MAGA this media conglomerate is - but it's still ridiculous seeing them slam Kimmel for "inappropriate and deeply offensive" comments while no mention of Gutfeld downplaying and basically dismissing Melissa Hortman's death, Kilmeade's comments, or Jesse Watter's comments on his show about Trumpers now being "at war" with liberals and lots of other nonsense. That Sinclair keeps buying up more and more local TV stations around the country is just more evidence that any Trumper claim to be opposed to cancel culture or censorship is a total joke.
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Lucky for us broadcast media is dying.

They're just going to push people away from it at a faster rate. People like Kimmel will move on to some platform (cable or streaming) that Sinclair has no control over.

If Sinclair's goal is to push an agenda by monopolizing media they're going to fail. I don't know a single Gen Z'er who watches any broadcast TV except sports.

Now, I am sure Trump will find ways to exert his power over cable/streaming but it won't have anything to do with Sinclair.
 
lawtig02 said:
LOL. For a federal judge to dismiss a complaint within the same week it is filed is HIGHLY unusual. Humiliating for the lawyers who signed their names to the complaint. Merryday is a Republican with a long, distinguished career on the bench -- a GHWB appointee.


In a ruling dripping with derision, a federal judge has rejected President Trump’s defamation lawsuit against The New York Times, asserting that the rambling 85-page suit did not follow federal rules for filing civil complaints.

The president’s team has been given a month to refile, and a Trump spokesperson indicated that they will do so.

Judge Steven D. Merryday of the US District Court for the Middle District of Florida said Friday that the suit “stands unmistakably and inexcusably athwart the requirements of Rule 8” of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.

A complaint must be a “short, plain, direct statement of allegations of fact,” he wrote, and Trump’s broadside against The Times was “decidedly improper and impermissible.”

Merryday said Trump’s legal team can refile in the next four weeks, but must keep the complaint to 40 pages or fewer.

A complaint is not supposed to be “a public forum for vituperation and invective” or “a megaphone for public relations,” he said.
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Trump lawyers signed up to be humiliated. They knew that that was part of the job.

Doubt any of them want to file complaints filled with Trump grievances but they are willing to humiliate themselves to serve Trump.
 
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