Michelle Morrow - GOP Lunatic To Primary Thom Tillis?

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Paine said:
I just don’t think your last sentence is accurate. Yes, there are a certain number of leopards ate my face Republicans, as you say.

But NC is still the second most rural state behind Texas. Texas is in the middle of a big fight over school vouchers because several rural Republicans won’t support vouchers.

I think, as the last few weeks have demonstrated, Dems just need a good message. I think someone like Walz could come into NC and appeal to rural Republican women who want their kids to have good public schools.

Like I said, I def don’t deny that the majority of Republicans have bought into the propaganda and would gut public schools, but I think there is a minority who we can appeal to (which is all we need to win a statewide race).
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2nd most rural state? Where's that coming from?
 
Paine said:
I just don’t think your last sentence is accurate. Yes, there are a certain number of leopards ate my face Republicans, as you say.

But NC is still the second most rural state behind Texas. Texas is in the middle of a big fight over school vouchers because several rural Republicans won’t support vouchers.

I think, as the last few weeks have demonstrated, Dems just need a good message. I think someone like Walz could come into NC and appeal to rural Republican women who want their kids to have good public schools.

Like I said, I def don’t deny that the majority of Republicans have bought into the propaganda and would gut public schools, but I think there is a minority who we can appeal to (which is all we need to win a statewide race).
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I admire your optimism and your faith in the basic fundamental decency of people. But admiring something and believing something are different concepts. There is always a limited amount of money in any campaign. Never an infinite supply of cash. The question is not what is possible, but what can be paid for. I think the best use of Democratic resources is to get existing Democrats to vote. With an emphasis on those who will be most harmed by the Republican "Back to Past" mantra. I genuinely believe that convincing Democrats to vote is a better use of limited campaign resources that convincing some racist, hate-filled, spite-driven MAGA voter that the persons for whom he intends to vote will intentionally take steps to disadvantage his children. Wrestling that particular pig in the pig pen is a futile effort and a waste of money.
 
Paine said:
I also agree with that. I’m talking about persuadable voters who have voted for Republicans, not people who are voting Republican no matter what.

You can’t win statewide elections in NC by just turning out Democrats. The numbers don’t add up.

Should Dems focus on Dem-leaning independents and Dem-friendly nonvoters? Yes, and I’ve argued for that.

Outreach to those who have voted for Republicans is also necessary. We can’t lump them all in as a lost cause. That’s losing politics.
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I disagree with your analysis. I think you greatly underestimate the number of voters in North Carolina who do not register as either a Democrat or a Republican. I'm not suggesting ignoring those registered as independents. I'm suggesting going after registered Republicans is nothing but fool's gold. The only way that registered Republicans are going to be changed is some variation of the old saying, "Experience is a harsh teacher, but a fool will learn no other way." Or some variation of a line from Dicken's "Oliver Twist," that states in regard to husbands being legally responsible for their wives because wives do what their husband instruct them to do, IIRC, "If the law supposes that, the law is an ass--an idiot. If that's the eye of the law, the law is a bachelor; and the worst I wish the law is, that his eye may be opened by experience - by experience." But even I am not harsh enough in my regard for rank-and-file Republicans that I wish their eyes should "be opened by experience."
 
She is a scary nut job. Pubs want to get rid of public education. They want to make all private schools so they can make money off it and so they can make them all schools for Christian extremism. And they use fear tactics like saying kids are being indoctrinated in public schools to make the idiots vote for them.
 
rodoheel said:
The statewide candidates that keep getting put up in NC are a great illustration of how party primaries can be harmful by giving an advantage to the most extreme candidates (who appeal to the more extreme voters who vote in party primaries, especially on the Republican side).
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Amen on this. Extremely frustrating.
 
CarolinaFever said:
She is a scary nut job. Pubs want to get rid of public education. They want to make all private schools so they can make money off it and so they can make them all schools for Christian extremism. And they use fear tactics like saying kids are being indoctrinated in public schools to make the idiots vote for them.
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The goal from right wingers everywhere is to kill public schools and replace them with charter schools. See what has happened in New Orleans. The urban schools are the first target. The party who is primarily rural and white does not want to have their tax money used to pay for others’ education. Plus they can strip local control from the schools and keep it at the mercy of their gerrymandered state governments. And in charters they can put whoever they want as a teacher (certified or not) and fire the ones they don’t want so much easier.
 
HeelInTheOzarks said:
The goal from right wingers everywhere is to kill public schools and replace them with charter schools. See what has happened in New Orleans. The urban schools are the first target. The party who is primarily rural and white does not want to have their tax money used to pay for others’ education. Plus they can strip local control from the schools and keep it at the mercy of their gerrymandered state governments. And in charters they can put whoever they want as a teacher (certified or not) and fire the ones they don’t want so much easier.
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And they can also admit and kick out any kids they want for any reason. They don't have to go by the same rules as public schools.
 
CarolinaFever said:
And they can also admit and kick out any kids they want for any reason. They don't have to go by the same rules as public schools.
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And that is a feature, not a flaw being exploited. By making sure only the ideologically pure get an education, the future of governmental and corporation bureaucracies can be enshrined in politically correct hands.
 
HeelInTheOzarks said:
The goal from right wingers everywhere is to kill public schools and replace them with charter schools. See what has happened in New Orleans. The urban schools are the first target. The party who is primarily rural and white does not want to have their tax money used to pay for others’ education. Plus they can strip local control from the schools and keep it at the mercy of their gerrymandered state governments. And in charters they can put whoever they want as a teacher (certified or not) and fire the ones they don’t want so much easier.
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New Orleans has been killing public education for decades, long before charter schools were even a thing, mostly by being so abjectly terrible that people converted religions so they could pay for their kids to go to Catholic school. Black or white, rich or or poor, if you cared about your kid, you sent them to a private and now a charter in New Orleans. It's a badly run city and that carries over to the the school system.
 
nycfan said:
Morrow beat the incumbent Republican Sec’y of Education Catherine Truitt in the primary somehow.
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Yeah, in a very crowded field for that slot. I think Truitt thought she had it in the bag and didn't campaign too hard. I don't even recall seeing a sign for her in my area during primary season. I've heard Truitt speak in my capacity as an educator - she's a significantly better state super than the previous dude, Mark Johnson. Neither compares to June Atkinson, but she was a definite upgrade to that position over Johnson.
 
nycfan said:
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I've become convinced that most of these Trumpers have all sorts of skeletons in their private lives and backgrounds. I wonder what dark secrets are lurking in Ms. Morrow's life? A good old Moms for Liberty liking for threesomes? An extramarital affair (or two or three)? Financial misdeeds? Blatantly racist or bigoted or just really weird posts on social media? You know there are likely some weird kinks there if an enterprising reporter knows where to look.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
I've become convinced that most of these Trumpers have all sorts of skeletons in their private lives and backgrounds. I wonder what dark secrets are lurking in Ms. Morrow's life? A good old Moms for Liberty liking for threesomes? An extramarital affair (or two or three)? Financial misdeeds? Blatantly racist or bigoted or just really weird posts on social media? You know there are likely some weird kinks there if an enterprising reporter knows where to look.
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those exist and have been outed and pubs don't care, they like her anyway.

lots of unhinged tweets. she was at the capitol on J6 and she tweeted about executing Obama.
 
4thgenheel said:
those exist and have been outed and pubs don't care, they like her anyway.

lots of unhinged tweets. she was at the capitol on J6 and she tweeted about executing Obama.
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Of course Republicans don't care, but independents and Democrats certainly will, just as they have with Robinson, which is why he's now trailing so badly in the polls. If there isn't more publicity about her controversial posts and sayings and beliefs then she might well win.
 
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