Michelle Morrow - GOP Lunatic To Primary Thom Tillis?

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ICFree said:
Moderate conservatives vote blue now.
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Nonsense. For all the talk about the Harris campaign trying to bring Haley voters in, Nikki Haley herself has endorsed Trump because she thinks Harris is a total disaster. Always has. And she called it a long time ago that it would eventually be Harris and not Biden on the top of the ticket this time.

If a random Haley voter is a “leans right” conservative (call it “55” on a scale from 1 to 100 where 1 is ultra liberal and 100 is ultra conservative), then the choice they’re given in this election is basically between 25 (Harris) and 85 (Trump). Those are the people who will be truly torn because they’re equidistant from the two candidates.

But if you’re a 60 or 65, you’re likely closer to Trump than Harris.

Don’t nitpick me on the numbers chosen as the real purpose is to show directionally why select Haley supporters may deflect to Harris, while the majority will not.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
Nonsense. For all the talk about the Harris campaign trying to bring Haley voters in, Nikki Haley herself has endorsed Trump because she thinks Harris is a total disaster. Always has. And she called it a long time ago that it would eventually be Harris and not Biden on the top of the ticket this time.

If a random Haley voter is a “leans right” conservative (call it “55” on a scale from 1 to 100 where 1 is ultra liberal and 100 is ultra conservative), then the choice they’re given in this election is basically between 25 (Harris) and 85 (Trump). Those are the people who will be truly torn because they’re equidistant from the two candidates.

But if you’re a 60 or 65, you’re likely closer to Trump than Harris.

Don’t nitpick me on the numbers chosen as the real purpose is to show directionally why select Haley supporters may deflect to Harris, while the majority will not.
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I won't nitpick your made up numbers in your fantasy land story. I don't consider Nikki Haley a moderate so your whole premise is off.
 
ICFree said:
I won't nitpick your made up numbers in your fantasy land story. I don't consider Nikki Haley a moderate so your whole premise is off.
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Hence your problem then. I agree with you the conversation isn’t worth having if you don’t consider Nikki Haley a moderate.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
Not in our opinion. But certainly fine if you disagree!
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My intention is not to argue or debate with you, but I want to understand, so I have a few of questions.

1. If so many people who served at the highest levels in trump's term and who know him well aren't supporting him, what evidence do you have that makes you believe your judgment is better than theirs?

2. Is Project 2025 moderately conservative?

3. With trump's history of not having in-depth knowledge of policy and details, and his propensity for surrounding himself with loyalists, how much of Project 2025 gets implemented if trump is elected?
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
Nonsense. For all the talk about the Harris campaign trying to bring Haley voters in, Nikki Haley herself has endorsed Trump because she thinks Harris is a total disaster. Always has. And she called it a long time ago that it would eventually be Harris and not Biden on the top of the ticket this time.

If a random Haley voter is a “leans right” conservative (call it “55” on a scale from 1 to 100 where 1 is ultra liberal and 100 is ultra conservative), then the choice they’re given in this election is basically between 25 (Harris) and 85 (Trump). Those are the people who will be truly torn because they’re equidistant from the two candidates.

But if you’re a 60 or 65, you’re likely closer to Trump than Harris.

Don’t nitpick me on the numbers chosen as the real purpose is to show directionally why select Haley supporters may deflect to Harris, while the majority will not.
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Remind us again what Haley said about Trump?
 
ICFree said:
No one with a r behind their name is moderate, or even conservative. Hence your problem with how badly you want to view yourself that way.
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Yeah, Republicans love to keep saying that they're the "Silent Majority" even though they've lost the national popular vote in 7 of the last 8 presidential elections and almost certainly will lose it by millions of votes again this year. And on issues like abortion they're also clearly a minority, as pro-choice referendums have easily passed even in solid red states like Kansas and Ohio. On most issues - abortion, access to birth control, IVF, gun control, gay marriage, voting rights, making major changes to Social Security and Medicare, etc. - Republicans are in the minority, and often by wide margins. They're not "moderate", no matter how many times they claim they are, and increasingly they're not even conservative, at least in any traditional political sense. They're reactionary - they want to turn the clock backwards on a host of issues and go back to some imagined "good old days" decade.
 
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HeelYeah2012 said:
Not in our opinion. But certainly fine if you disagree!
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So how do you not see Robinson and Trump in the same light. Trump basically did when he was declaring Robinson to be Martin Luther King Jr on Steroids and telling everyone how wonderful Robinson is.

I wonder if Trump likes Trans with women porn, like Robinson?

This might be the year when the more centrist conservatives make a choice to take back their party from the nut jobs Cultist trumpers.

Yes that would mean losing the presidential election, but it would give them a chance to move on from the lunacy that is trump and his type. They could then start to support more reasonable rational conservatives who will work to propose and work with others in the legislator to improve the country for everyone. Move on from the war on minority groups.



www.nbcnews.com

Trump has no plan to pull his endorsement of Mark Robinson after alleged porn site scandal

Trump is facing pressure from some allies and staff to break with the gubernatorial candidate after a report on his past comments, but so far he does not plan to drop him.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
For the record, my wife isn’t voting for Morrow. She’s a moderate conservative just like me but won’t pull the lever for Morrow, Robinson, people like that.
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IIRC, you were the one that told your wife about the crazy stuff that Morrow believes. This must mean that the word about Morrow must NOT be getting around to teachers at the public schools. Is this correct? Is the word about Morrow not being spread among public school teachers (from her vantage point)?
 
GQNC said:
IIRC, you were the one that told your wife about the crazy stuff that Morrow believes. This must mean that the word about Morrow must NOT be getting around to teachers at the public schools. Is this correct? Is the word about Morrow not being spread among public school teachers (from her vantage point)?
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Most people just aren’t that political. She learned about Morrow a couple months prior to the election and yes it was me who told her, but that’s hardly surprising to me. The people on this board follow politics as a hobby. Most Americans are not that way.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
Most people just aren’t that political. She learned about Morrow a couple months prior to the election and yes it was me who told her, but that’s hardly surprising to me. The people on this board follow politics as a hobby. Most Americans are not that way.
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I will agree that posters on this, a politics board, keep up with politics more than the average person. However, if say you work for US Steel, you would keep up with an effort to buy out US Steel more than some other random acquisition. I can’t see how NC public school teachers are not seeing Morrow as a personal threat.
 
GQNC said:
I will agree that posters on this, a politics board, keep up with politics more than the average person. However, if say you work for US Steel, you would keep up with an effort to buy out US Steel more than some other random acquisition. I can’t see how NC public school teachers are not seeing Morrow as a personal threat.
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People from all sectors of life vote explicitly against their own interests all time, because they don’t think it will affect THEM, just the bad people on the other side.
 
This is another instance where the lack of a union hurts. In a state with a teachers union they would be all over this, making sure the teachers were aware of the potential problems and organizing/motivating them to action. I think many teachers who have moved here from union states don’t know where to look for leadership on these issues……because there is none. Teachers aren’t organized.

My wife still gets emails from the teachers unions in Los Angeles and Cleveland with all sorts of information on political developments affecting them and how they can get involved. No such leadership exists in NC.
 
farce© said:
This is another instance where the lack of a union hurts. In a state with a teachers union they would be all over this, making sure the teachers were aware of the potential problems and organizing/motivating them to action. I think many teachers who have moved here from union states don’t know where to look for leadership on these issues……because there is none. Teachers aren’t organized.

My wife still gets emails from the teachers unions in Los Angeles and Cleveland with all sorts of information on political developments affecting them and how they can get involved. No such leadership exists in NC.
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Which is exactly what the NC GOP wants, and which is why no teachers unions (or other civil service unions) are allowed in NC.
 
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