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SnoopRob said:
Long-term, the greatest rival OKC might have is the salary cap.
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No, they will just trade guys who are due for a max deal and keep restocking. They own a shit ton of draft capital.

2026:​

  • Oklahoma City first-round pick
  • Oklahoma City second-round pick
  • Dallas or Philadelphia second-round pick

2027:​

  • Oklahoma City first-round pick
  • Denver top-five protected first-round pick
  • LA first-round pick swap
  • Oklahoma City second-round pick
  • Houston or Indiana or Miami second-round pick

2028:​

  • Oklahoma City first-round pick
  • Dallas first-round pick swap
  • Oklahoma City second-round pick
  • Milwaukee second-round pick
  • Utah second-round pick

2029:​

  • Oklahoma City first-round pick
  • Denver top-five protected first-round pick
  • Oklahoma City second-round pick
  • Atlanta second-round pick
  • Boston second-round pick
  • Houston second-round pick
  • Miami second-round pick

2030:​

  • Oklahoma City first-round pick
  • Oklahoma City second-round pick
  • Denver second-round pick
  • Houston second-round pick
  • Miami second-round pick

2031:​

  • Oklahoma City first-round pick
  • Oklahoma City second-round pick
  • New Orleans or Orlando second-round swap
 
Heelsandeers said:
Knicks can't get anyone going besides Brunson and the bench just isn't good
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How would we know? Thibs ain’t gonna play more than 7 dudes no matter what. That bench spent all season getting zero minutes and now they’re supposed to step up?
 
Heelsandeers said:
What's the math and timeline on SGA supermax and Jalen and Chet maxes?
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SGA is incredibly cheap right now. He made 36 million this year, 38 next year, and 40 the year after that. He has a player option for 27/28 which will almost certainly not be optioned.

The entire team is mostly set vis a vis salary until 27/28 although a few notables become extension eligible in 26/27 - Hartenstein, Holmgren, and Dort among them. The biggest risks for OKC are injury and league adjustments. It's really hard to repeat and OKC was nearly ousted by Denver...so, while they are absolutely dominating MN - they aren't the 1980's Celtics or Lakers yet.
 
p5mmr9 said:
SGA is incredibly cheap right now. He made 36 million this year, 38 next year, and 40 the year after that. He has a player option for 27/28 which will almost certainly not be optioned.

The entire team is mostly set vis a vis salary until 27/28 although a few notables become extension eligible in 26/27 - Hartenstein, Holmgren, and Dort among them. The biggest risks for OKC are injury and league adjustments. It's really hard to repeat and OKC was nearly ousted by Denver...so, while they are absolutely dominating MN - they aren't the 1980's Celtics or Lakers yet.
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Agree with all of this, with a caveat - they definitely have dynasty potential. Between Holmgren and Williams, they have two borderline elite guys that aren't likely within 10% of their peak powers, and another in Wallace who has Jrue Holiday like potential. OkC has been scary good, in part because of their youthful athleticism, but also despite their inexperience. That youth is growing up.

This deep run likely only fuels more confidence. Yes, it could increase the risk of injury and "get mine" attitude, but they are so damn deep, for years, and there's reason to believe their culture is quite healthy. Their biggest flaw is a lack of reliable second scorer. Williams is elite at times, and absolutely disappears at others. I expect he'll only get more and more reliable.
 
I find myself rooting against OKC due to some of their players, but it is remarkable to see the work Presti has done.

I really enjoy the Pacers so hopefully they can close out the Knicks. Carlisle has done a hell of a job there.
 
bridgetender said:
I find myself rooting against OKC due to some of their players, but it is remarkable to see the work Presti has done.

I really enjoy the Pacers so hopefully they can close out the Knicks. Carlisle has done a hell of a job there.
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I find myself globally disliking the remaining teams. I enjoy Indy's style the most, but find Halliburton's troll personality immensely unlikeable. I find the Wolves and Knicks uninteresting to watch. OkC vs Indy, IMO, is by far the most interesting pure basketball series, as the clash between OkC's controlled chaos defense and Indy's controlled chaos offense will be fun to watch. A Wolves vs Knicks series would offer the unique intensity of Garden games, but good god that series would be a slog - dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, screen, dribble, dribble, foul bait/deep kick-out 3. Rinse. Repeat.
 
Healing said:
I find myself globally disliking the remaining teams. I enjoy Indy's style the most, but find Halliburton's troll personality immensely unlikeable.
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The Pacers often have troll personalities. I'm usually with you on this point but I'll make an exception for the Pacers. Without guys like Lance Stephenson, TH, etc -- they are just never going to get any media coverage at all.
 
Icky Mettle said:
Basically what dismantled them back when they had Durant, Westbrook, and Harden.
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I thought that also had something to do with Durant not wanting to have to share the spotlight with Harden and Westbrook.
That was quite a threesome if they could have kept them together.
 
superrific said:
The Pacers often have troll personalities. I'm usually with you on this point but I'll make an exception for the Pacers. Without guys like Lance Stephenson, TH, etc -- they are just never going to get any media coverage at all.
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I don't know what it is, but I just cant bring myself to like the pacers. Same with the Celtics.

I like OKC and hope they win.

Of course I'm a very casual fan, I don't watch enough to know much about the personalities like you guys do.
 
UNCatTech said:
I thought that also had something to do with Durant not wanting to have to share the spotlight with Harden and Westbrook.
That was quite a threesome if they could have kept them together.
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Harden was the first to go. He and OKC couldn’t agree to terms for a contract extension. They were offering about $55MM for a 4-year extension. When they couldn’t come to terms, OKC traded Harden to Houston. Houston was able to sign him to a 5-year extension worth about $80MM.
 
I'm not sure OKC could have paid Harden enough to share a backcourt with Westbrook. Harden knew he was the better playmaker and it probably ate him up that Russ hogged the ball so much.
 
NYC seems pretty Knick Crazy right now. I walked the dogs through the park last night and we went by a spot where the norm is for Central American families to be gathered with the men playing volleyball (jungle rules), some guys playing cards or dominoes, kids kicking a soccer ball around, and a couple of food trucks feeding people -- what I saw instead was a portable big screen broadcasting the basketball game.

I never expected to see that.

Ever.
 
donbosco said:
NYC seems pretty Knick Crazy right now. I walked the dogs through the park last night and we went by a spot where the norm is for Central American families to be gathered with the men playing volleyball (jungle rules), some guys playing cards or dominoes, kids kicking a soccer ball around, and a couple of food trucks feeding people -- what I saw instead was a portable big screen broadcasting the basketball game.

I never expected to see that.

Ever.
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KAT is Dominican. Not sure if that makes much difference.
 
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