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It shows lack of vocabulary. Cursing doesn't make you right, it proves your lack of ability to communicate with civility.
I once felt this way. I went a decade trying to never use curse words, then I gave up and said fuck it.

Below is some supporting talks as to why it really isn't that bad and doesn't actually show a lack of vocabulary. I hope this first one is the specific one I was looking for, didn't have time to listen again today.

The science of swearing, especially the impact of profanity on most people. Swearing is actually powerful language that doesn't deserve to be condemned or to be equated to poor intelligence. Venja Beck, 22, got her bachelor’s in psychology and communication at Maastricht University College and after a sabbatical year she’s now working on her research master’s in cognitive sciences in Amsterdam. At high school she attended the bilingual Da Vinci Class at College Den Hulster in Venlo, which explains her ease with the English language. The subject of her talk will be about the science of swearing, especially the impact of profanity on most people. The apt title of her talk is ‘I swear this will be a good TEDxtalk’, also indicating that swearing derives from taking oaths. In her talk she hopes to convince you that swearing is actually very powerful ‘cool’ language that doesn’t deserve to be condemned so much and must not be equated to poor intelligence. It has always been a widely accepted tradition dating back to medieval times. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community.



Swearing isn’t all bad. From his own psychology research on swearing as a response to pain, to studies from further afield, Richard Stephens will present the numerous positive outcomes of swearing. This TEDx talk will make you think about swearing in a whole new light. Sometimes it’s OK to drop the F-bomb. Swearing isn’t all bad. From his own psychology research on swearing as a response to pain, to studies from further afield, Richard Stephens will present the numerous positive outcomes of swearing. This TEDx talk will make you think about swearing in a whole new light. Sometimes it’s OK to drop the F-bomb.-- Dr. Richard Stephens is a Senior Lecturer in Psychology at Keele University and Chair of the British Psychological Society Psychobiology Section. He has won several awards for science communication including the Wellcome Trust /Guardian Science Writing Prize 2014 and, in 2010, an Ig Nobel Prize for his research on swearing and pain. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community.






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Who deemed it not civil?

There's no reason fuck should be taboo but the word spoon or moist is acceptable.

Just because someone ancient started a trend doesn't make it valid
Context has so much to bring in this conversation.
I mean, I can think of some sentences with moist that might make a sailor blush. :cool:
 
I still think that a year or so from now (maybe less) that most of our right-wing posters and bosiders will have vanished from the board, similar to what happened in Trump's first term.
 
I once felt this way. I went a decade trying to never use curse words, then I gave up and said fuck it.

Below is some supporting talks as to why it really isn't that bad and doesn't actually show a lack of vocabulary. I hope this first one is the specific one I was looking for, didn't have time to listen again today.

The science of swearing, especially the impact of profanity on most people. Swearing is actually powerful language that doesn't deserve to be condemned or to be equated to poor intelligence. Venja Beck, 22, got her bachelor’s in psychology and communication at Maastricht University College and after a sabbatical year she’s now working on her research master’s in cognitive sciences in Amsterdam. At high school she attended the bilingual Da Vinci Class at College Den Hulster in Venlo, which explains her ease with the English language. The subject of her talk will be about the science of swearing, especially the impact of profanity on most people. The apt title of her talk is ‘I swear this will be a good TEDxtalk’, also indicating that swearing derives from taking oaths. In her talk she hopes to convince you that swearing is actually very powerful ‘cool’ language that doesn’t deserve to be condemned so much and must not be equated to poor intelligence. It has always been a widely accepted tradition dating back to medieval times. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community.



Swearing isn’t all bad. From his own psychology research on swearing as a response to pain, to studies from further afield, Richard Stephens will present the numerous positive outcomes of swearing. This TEDx talk will make you think about swearing in a whole new light. Sometimes it’s OK to drop the F-bomb. Swearing isn’t all bad. From his own psychology research on swearing as a response to pain, to studies from further afield, Richard Stephens will present the numerous positive outcomes of swearing. This TEDx talk will make you think about swearing in a whole new light. Sometimes it’s OK to drop the F-bomb.-- Dr. Richard Stephens is a Senior Lecturer in Psychology at Keele University and Chair of the British Psychological Society Psychobiology Section. He has won several awards for science communication including the Wellcome Trust /Guardian Science Writing Prize 2014 and, in 2010, an Ig Nobel Prize for his research on swearing and pain. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community.






And just for good measure:

I spent years in Europe, living amongst Brits, Scots, Irishmen, Dutchies… I learned straight away the word “fuck” is used as almost every part of speech imaginable.
 
I don't mind the cussing, but when posters say I guzzle the spunk of an Israeli thug just because I don't fit in with their view of Middle East affairs and it gets laughs from the usual board suspects, well I consider that vulgar.
 
I was at a concert where Pearl Jam was playing. Vedder said "fuck the police" all of the police security turned and looked at him. He then said "oh, I mean make rough love to you all" (or something close it's been over 30 years)

I guess much is in how you say it.

And considering we only have words on these boards, no tone or inflection. Sometimes interpretation is at fault.
 
I don't mind the cussing, but when posters say I guzzle the spunk of an Israeli thug just because I don't fit in with their view of Middle East affairs and it gets laughs from the usual board suspects, well I consider that vulgar.
Well vulgarity is often used as part of humor, so it tracks that something you find vulgar might get laughs from others. The question is whether it's over the top vulgarity based on board consensus (or the powers that be, if they want to get into that).

Personally I would not say that to somebody. I consider it a bit crass for polite conversation. However, I might giggle a bit at its used by somebody else if I thought the target of it was arguing in bad faith and just trying to prevent others from having a meaningful discussion.

I guess to put it another way, if somebody is intentionally being an ass, I tend to give others a bit of leeway in what I think is appropriate vs. over the top. Now if super is the one who said this to you, I'd have to ask you honestly if you were doing something intentionally to provoke it. In general, I find him to be a very polite poster... his Asperger's can certainly make him seem patronizing at times.

But I think anybody who has engaged with him for any period of time realizes that it's a result of the way his brain works... not something he's doing to be mean or to belittle. He honestly wants to share the info his spongelike brain accumulates at a mindboggling rate. He's incapable of seeing the line where it goes from friendly sharing to pedantic mansplaining. He can't help it.

But even when he knows people are making fun of him... he still tries to share what he knows, as he feels that's the best of him he has to offer. Honestly, the constant bullying of him around here for being on the spectrum is IMO far worse than anything he might have said after finally saying enough is enough.
 
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