Pardons, Commutations and Dropped Prosecutions Catch-All

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(He was convincing kids they got the vaccine but charging the parents who didn’t want their kid to actually get the vaccine to give saline instead and falsify records otherwise, not tricking parents who sought the vaccine for their kids)
 

FDA Authorizes Juul’s E-Cigarettes, Reversing Ban That Nearly Bankrupted Firm​

Regulator allows Juul’s original vaporizer and refill cartridges in tobacco and menthol flavors to remain on U.S. market​


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“… The Food and Drug Administration gave a green light to Juul’s original vaporizer, along with refill cartridges in tobacco and menthol flavors, the people familiar with the matter said. The decision means that regulators determined that the products’ benefit to adult cigarette smokers outweighed any potential public-health risks.

The FDA’s decision—five years after Juul first submitted its products for federal review—follows a period of tumult for the company.

Juul was once a vaping juggernaut and one of the most valuable startups in America. But in 2022, the FDA ordered Juul to halt its sales because of unresolved questions related to the toxicology data Juul had submitted in its application to remain on the U.S. market.

The FDA ban, though it was quickly paused, sent Juul into a financial tailspin as the company attempted to settle thousands of lawsuits alleging that the company had marketed its addictive devices to children and teens. The company narrowly averted bankruptcy and its workforce shrank to a fraction of its former size.…

The FDA considered Juul’s appeal for two years and in 2024 formally rescinded the ban, putting the company’s application back under scientific review and opening the door for federal clearance.…”
 
MAHA!!

The money Tobacco spent on trump is paying off. It’s really wonderful that Tobacco is getting another generation hooked on its products.
 
Molotov Mocktail said:
MAHA!!

The money Tobacco spent on trump is paying off. It’s really wonderful that Tobacco is getting another generation hooked on its products.
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As someone who grew up in Eastern NC and started working tobacco as a young teenager, I have always felt a bit like those wretched souls in South America who were forced to grow and process cocaine for the bottomeless and insatiable US market. As bad as topping, cropping, handing, looping, and barning tobacco was, I am absolutely certain what I went through was nothing like the absolute hell that the wretched bottom of the labor market in South America still goes through to supply the addictive needs and whims of Americans.
 


“The Justice Department’s civil rights chief has asked a federal judge to sentence a Louisville police officer convicted in the 2020 killing of Breonna Taylor to one day in jail, a stunning reversal of Biden-era efforts to address racial disparities in local law enforcement.

Last year, a federal jury in Kentucky convicted Brett Hankison, the officer, of one count of violating Ms. Taylor’s civil rights by discharging several shots through Ms. Taylor’s window during a drug raid that went awry.

He faces a maximum sentence of life in prison and is scheduled to be sentenced next week.

On Wednesday, Harmeet K. Dhillon, the assistant attorney general for civil rights, asked the judge in the case to sentence Mr. Hankison to time he had already served, in addition to one day in prison and three years of supervised release.

In the filing, Ms. Dhillon suggested the prosecution was excessive, arguing that the Biden Justice Department had secured a conviction against Mr. Hankison after he had been acquitted on state charges and his first federal trial ended in mistrial.…”
 
FAFO Trump-supporting black people. It's now open season on you. Trump talked about replacing qualified immunity for cops with absolute immunity, and while he hasn't been able to do that exactly just yet, one way of doing it is declining to prosecute -- or in this case, asking for a comically light sentence. I have a feeling the judge will not accept that recommendation but who knows.

The consideration of a Chauvin pardon plus this -- to say nothing of Arpaio and other pardons -- is sending a clear message to POS cops everywhere. Trump has your back.

Remember that Trump has expressed admiration for Duterte. Under Duterte's watch, the entire country's police form basically became a paramilitary group that executed 15-30K people.
 
nycfan said:


“The Justice Department’s civil rights chief has asked a federal judge to sentence a Louisville police officer convicted in the 2020 killing of Breonna Taylor to one day in jail, a stunning reversal of Biden-era efforts to address racial disparities in local law enforcement.

Last year, a federal jury in Kentucky convicted Brett Hankison, the officer, of one count of violating Ms. Taylor’s civil rights by discharging several shots through Ms. Taylor’s window during a drug raid that went awry.

He faces a maximum sentence of life in prison and is scheduled to be sentenced next week.

On Wednesday, Harmeet K. Dhillon, the assistant attorney general for civil rights, asked the judge in the case to sentence Mr. Hankison to time he had already served, in addition to one day in prison and three years of supervised release.

In the filing, Ms. Dhillon suggested the prosecution was excessive, arguing that the Biden Justice Department had secured a conviction against Mr. Hankison after he had been acquitted on state charges and his first federal trial ended in mistrial.…”
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FWIW, he didn't kill Taylor. All of his shots missed. He returned fire after being fired upon and after Taylor's boyfriend shot another officer. Life in prison or any time in prison would have been absolutely excessive IMO.
 
ZZLPHeels said:
FWIW, he didn't kill Taylor. All of his shots missed. He returned fire after being fired upon and after Taylor's boyfriend shot another officer. Life in prison or any time in prison would have been absolutely excessive IMO.
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Oh, really. So they should let him off because he's a bad shot? Give me a fucking break. The officers absolutely violated civil rights and we have criminal penalties for that for a reason.

I get really tired of the selective outrage. Should we throw immigrants in a hole for the rest of their lives? Well, Laken Riley doesn't even get a rest of her life! But Breanna Taylor? Her life doesn't count, I guess. The cops who shot her get off because reasons, and GOPers never seem to apply the same logic. It is so nauseating.

If you don't punish officers when they shoot up apartments for no reason, then what do you think they will do? This is going to make them more careful?
 
superrific said:
Oh, really. So they should let him off because he's a bad shot? Give me a fucking break. The officers absolutely violated civil rights and we have criminal penalties for that for a reason.

I get really tired of the selective outrage. Should we throw immigrants in a hole for the rest of their lives? Well, Laken Riley doesn't even get a rest of her life! But Breanna Taylor? Her life doesn't count, I guess. The cops who shot her get off because reasons, and GOPers never seem to apply the same logic. It is so nauseating.

If you don't punish officers when they shoot up apartments for no reason, then what do you think they will do? This is going to make them more careful?
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The cops who shot her got off because her boyfriend shot first and nearly killed a police officer. It was a bad situation, but the officers returning fire was in no way criminal.
 
Oh, and this motherfucker fired a dozen shots blindly into an apartment, not knowing who was in there or caring what might happen to his bullets.

That motherfucker should spend a lot of time in jail. Even if his bullet didn't kill anyone, that was mere luck.
 
ZZLPHeels said:
The cops who shot her got off because her boyfriend shot first and nearly killed a police officer. It was a bad situation, but the officers returning fire was in no way criminal.
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Where are you licensed to practice law? Who are you to say that it's "in no way criminal" when there are grand jury indictments and actual jury verdicts to the contrary. You know more about the law than the judge who issued the jury instructions? Really?

The cops who shot her got off because the DA didn't even try to prosecute the case.

There is no principle of self-defense that allows officers to blindly pump dozens of bullets into an apartment after one shot was fired.
 
superrific said:
Where are you licensed to practice law? Who are you to say that it's "in no way criminal" when there are grand jury indictments and actual jury verdicts to the contrary. You know more about the law than the judge who issued the jury instructions? Really?

The cops who shot her got off because the DA didn't even try to prosecute the case.

There is no principle of self-defense that allows officers to blindly pump dozens of bullets into an apartment after one shot was fired.
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You don't need to be a lawyer to recognize the fact that after all of the uproar and misinformation about this case, the reason that exactly one person was convicted on a single charge after three trials and after being acquitted on everything else is because these officers lawfully returned fire after being fired upon. As I said, it was a bad situation but no one deserved to go to jail over it - not Taylor's boyfriend and not the officers involved in the shootout.
 
ZZLPHeels said:
FWIW, he didn't kill Taylor. All of his shots missed. He returned fire after being fired upon and after Taylor's boyfriend shot another officer. Life in prison or any time in prison would have been absolutely excessive IMO.
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Taylor’s boyfriend fired a single shot and they couldn’t even prove that shot is the one that injured the officer. Charges against him were dropped and the city settled for $2 million when he sued them for misconduct.
 
BlooVooDoo said:
Taylor’s boyfriend fired a single shot and they couldn’t even prove that shot is the one that injured the officer. Charges against him were dropped and the city settled for $2 million when he sued them for misconduct.
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They absolutely proved that his shot is the one that injured the officer; he admitted to firing at the police because he didn't know that they were police officers. The city settling has nothing to do with the supposed innocence or guilt of the officers involved. Cities have settled numerous times even when their officers did nothing wrong (see: Mike Brown).

As is stands, the prospect of a life sentence for an alleged crime that didn't even injure a single person is preposterous.
 
ZZLPHeels said:
You don't need to be a lawyer to recognize the fact that after all of the uproar and misinformation about this case, the reason that exactly one person was convicted after three trials is because these officers lawfully returned fire after being fired upon. As I said, it was a bad situation but no one deserved to go to jail over it - not Taylor's boyfriend and not the officers involved in the shootout.
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1. Well, there was one person convicted. So his conviction doesn't count because the others got off?
2. You are wrong about the legal process.
3. The law says he should face up to lifetime behind bars. If you don't know the law -- which you absolutely do not, based on your posts here -- why are you spouting off on it?

JFC, stay in your lane, man. When you talk about emergency response and FEMA, I listen to you because I think you know what you're talking about and know more than I do. Are you not capable of extending the same courtesy and respect to people trained in the law?

It doesn't actually matter whether they were fired upon. Shooting a dozen bullets blindly into an apartment is a violation of civil rights and should be punished harshly.

Let's suppose you're right: they were fired on first by a person in the apartment. Is it your position that everyone in the apartment is now fair game? It's OK to kill babies and little children? Or is your position that if a baby died the cop should go to jail but not if a black woman dies? Where are you drawing the line? What if it wasn't a shot? What if it was a firecracker? Or a gun with blanks?
 
ZZLPHeels said:
You don't need to be a lawyer to recognize the fact that after all of the uproar and misinformation about this case, the reason that exactly one person was convicted on a single charge after three trials and after being acquitted on everything else is because these officers lawfully returned fire after being fired upon. As I said, it was a bad situation but no one deserved to go to jail over it - not Taylor's boyfriend and not the officers involved in the shootout.
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Firing 32 rounds at targets you can’t even see (in an apartment building!) is reckless and exactly the kind of shitty police work qualified immunity promotes.
 
I hate it when decent posters reveal their true colors. It's sad because I liked to think those weren't the true colors. Alas.
 
superrific said:
1. Well, there was one person convicted. So his conviction doesn't count because the others got off?
2. You are wrong about the legal process.
3. The law says he should face up to lifetime behind bars. If you don't know the law -- which you absolutely do not, based on your posts here -- why are you spouting off on it?

JFC, stay in your lane, man. When you talk about emergency response and FEMA, I listen to you because I think you know what you're talking about and know more than I do. Are you not capable of extending the same courtesy and respect to people trained in the law?

It doesn't actually matter whether they were fired upon. Shooting a dozen bullets blindly into an apartment is a violation of civil rights and should be punished harshly.

Let's suppose you're right: they were fired on first by a person in the apartment. Is it your position that everyone in the apartment is now fair game? It's OK to kill babies and little children? Or is your position that if a baby died the cop should go to jail but not if a black woman dies? Where are you drawing the line? What if it wasn't a shot? What if it was a firecracker? Or a gun with blanks?
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Sorry, super. You don't get to gatekeep public opinion. People who are not attorneys can and will have an opinion about the legal process.

This was this person's third trial. He was acquitted on state charges. His first federal trial ended in a mistrial as jurors were unable to reach a verdict. His second federal trial ended in him being acquitted of all but one charge. No one else who fired shots that night was charged.

As I said to Bloo, the prospect that a person should spend life in prison for a crime that didn't even injure a single person is preposterous, particularly when people have willfully murdered children and have gotten out in five years. This person returned fire after being fired upon and missed. He absolutely deserves his freedom.

With regard to your hypotheticals, they are not relevant to this case. What if Taylor's boyfriend savagely murdered Taylor while the police waited outside? What if Taylor hadn't been involved with shady people? We can play the "what if" game all night long.
 
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