Politics 2028

It's gonna be J.D. on the Pub side (unless Trump miraculously survives this term - alive - and somehow convinces the courts and congress to allow him a 3rd term).
For those Democrat leaning friends that have either stayed home or voted third party because they just didn't care much for the candidate or they thought that they are all the same, here's a bit about those complaining about things they dislike about Newsom:
Yes -- there are some things that Gavin Newsom has said and done that I disagree with.
But ... if he were the candidate, I would vote for him. Hell, I'd vote for Bill the Cat if he were running against any rethuglican. But the real point is this:
You are not getting a f@cking pony! Nobody is getting a pony! Stop demanding a pony! The stupidity of voting for the third party candidate who has no chance of winning but who promises a pony is how we got Bush, how we got trump, how we will lose whatever is left of all that we cherish! Just f@cking stop it! There are no ponies! The best we can hope for is a competent plow horse! And I don't care if the plow horse has twenty bad habits. I want the crops in the barn!
Gavin Newsom isn't the candidate -- right now he's the guy who's living rent-free in trump's head. He's the one who's saying what needs to be said. He's the one willing to be dangerous. Thank him for that. And shut up with all the reasons you don't like him. Nobody cares. The goal is to get trump and his enablers out of our White House and we have to unite for that common cause, right now.
 
Pulling the discussion in the Current Events thread into this one, here's what I've been wondering recently.

1. Assuming we actually have a transfer of power, the US from 2029 through at least 2032 or so is EXTREMELY likely to be a shitshow. Economic catastrophe, international isolation, historically low consumer confidence and public approval of elected officials. Everything Trump is doing right now is borrowing for the present at the expense of tomorrow, which means we're going to have hell to pay in a couple of years.

2. I would almost rather have a Pub presiding over the 2029-2032 shitshow than a Dem, because the Dem will 100% be blamed for things that are not his/her fault.

3. I do not know if we can get to 2032 with an intact nation. If we can, that may be the opportunity for Dems to switch the dynamic and actually benefit from the Pubs' incompetence, rather than being handicapped by it.

4. What encourages me a tiny bit is that while we're clearly slouching towards Gomorrah on a daily basis, everything has not fully collapsed yet.

5. What discourages me is we're still only a little more than 1/8 of the way through this historically catastrophic presidency, and I'm losing confidence we can make it to 2028, much less 2032.
 
lawtig02 said:
Pulling the discussion in the Current Events thread into this one, here's what I've been wondering recently.

1. Assuming we actually have a transfer of power, the US from 2029 through at least 2032 or so is EXTREMELY likely to be a shitshow. Economic catastrophe, international isolation, historically low consumer confidence and public approval of elected officials. Everything Trump is doing right now is borrowing for the present at the expense of tomorrow, which means we're going to have hell to pay in a couple of years.

2. I would almost rather have a Pub presiding over the 2029-2032 shitshow than a Dem, because the Dem will 100% be blamed for things that are not his/her fault.

3. I do not know if we can get to 2032 with an intact nation. If we can, that may be the opportunity for Dems to switch the dynamic and actually benefit from the Pubs' incompetence, rather than being handicapped by it.

4. What encourages me a tiny bit is that while we're clearly slouching towards Gomorrah on a daily basis, everything has not fully collapsed yet.

5. What discourages me is we're still only a little more than 1/8 of the way through this historically catastrophic presidency, and I'm losing confidence we can make it to 2028, much less 2032.
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I tend to agree about having a pub prez preside over the shit show which will surely be with us after 2028. Let them take the heat for the lousy situation we’ll be in by then. Like as has been pointed out several times before, a pub Prez always crashes the car, a Dem takes over and has to shoulder the blame for the wreck, and account for the amount of money it takes to repair the vehicle. Which in turn leads the American public to elect yet another dumbass Pub for prez. (Because Americans are dumbasses with a short memory). Wash rinse and repeat. Maybe break that cycle for once?
“Mister we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again 🎶”
 


It didn’t work for Tim Scott but blessings to the couple for their union.
 
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