It’s because that ad was in January of 2016. New Hampshire and Iowa have a lot of white people. You know this though. Latino voters supported Bernie strongly in 2020, and he performed better with Black voters than his 2016 run, especially young Black voters.
No, I didn't know when that ad was created. But why can't we show black people to white folks in Iowa and New Hampshire? That ad is making my point. If you disregard race in America, then there's a lot more that seems possible. As soon as you put black people in the picture, those white folks in Iowa and New Hampshire get really uncomfortable. That is our challenge, and pretending that it isn't is not a winning strategy. It's just pipe dreaming.
Super, it was January of 2016. Where do you think Bernie was holding all of his rallies in January of 2016? Where do you think the footage from this ad came from?
The messaging part to me is synonymous with outreach and communication, and I feel like you could have the perfect plan but still fail badly because your outreach/comms sucked.
This is nonsense. I will repeat it until I'm blue in the face. Bernie Sanders was never and will never be the Democratic nominee for President. He's not a Democrat. The Democratic Party would never support a nominee who isn't a Democrat.
If Democrats hated Bernie so much, why was it necessary to sandbag him in 2016 and 2020? Shouldn’t he have lost without that kind of interference if your theory is correct?
Bernie Sanders lost in 2020 because black voters don't like him. Period. We all know what happened.
I think it was more so about every other candidate dropping out to endorse Biden when it was clear that Sanders had a ton of momentum.
True, not great timing. But the context around the comment was to address the accusations being made on here at the time. The......."what's wrong with the voters and why won't they vote for Harris" type of comments. About three and half weeks before the elections was when that stuff was running wild on here. Then she started a uptick in the polls and things settled down a bit on that front.
And here we go! In my experience, Bernie Sanders supporters always end up in the conspiracy bullshit eventually. Joe Biden won twice the votes as Bernie Sanders during the primary. HRC beat him by about 12 points.
Not a conspiracy.
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Plenty < a majority.
All right, fine. In the future, if you're expecting me to crap on my party during the campaign, you're going to be disappointed. Even if what you say is 100% accurate.
Do you understand how rich that is coming from you? You’ve started two threads today about what you think the Democratic strategy should be. The first one got no traction so you started a second.
Main character syndrome is about generalizing from your own experience as if that experience is factually representative of the world. I am not going to argue with you about this. I will let people judge for themselves. But plenty is not a majority. That's a fact, and not just in my own experience.
Brother I’m 25. I know what main character syndrome is. Thank you for explaining that to me though. It’s probably about the 80th time you’ve explained something to me that I’m already aware of. It’s just as patronizing the 80th time as it was the 1st.
I take back that allegation because it's not how I want to be communicating. I am just tired of hearing bullshit about how Bernie would have won if only the world wasn't aligned against him. He ran twice. He didn't really come close either time. Young leftists love him. Other people don't. It's a hard lesson to learn that the people who should be liked aren't. This is a perennial problem with youth politics, and I won't except myself from when I was young.
Clearly I just need to stop mentioning Bernie at all. Something about him makes liberal Democrats foam at the mouth when they would otherwise agree with what I’m saying.