RFK Jr, HHs & MAHA | CDC RIF massacre

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superrific said:
Seeked is what killed me. Was that the first time you seeked counsel. He did it twice.

Nothing more MAGA about accusing others of dishonesty by virtue of a fabricated, non-existent "recording"
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Yeah autocorrect REALLY resisted letting me type that.
 


“… Retsef Levi, a professor of operations management at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, serves as an outside adviser to the government on vaccines. He was elevated to the head of a work group with CDC on COVID immunization in August.

… At the same time, new rules published by CDC would allow him to appoint other panel members, set the work priorities and shape recommendations on who should receive COVID-19 vaccines. In the end, the Kennedy appointee did receive those new powers.

Lawyers at the Department of Health and Human Services "expressed legal concerns" about the widened scope and Levi’s outsized role in the group and proposed that government officials narrow its purview to topics "that are within the scope of the CDC mission," according to an August 25 email to federal health officials that was read to Reuters….”
 
I am sure that'll work, Bill


Cassidy closed the hearing with a plea to the new ACIP panel to not change the longstanding recommendation that all infants get vaccinated for Hepatitis B, citing his own credentials as a hepatologist who practiced for decades and saw people die from Hep B infections.

In a scrum with reporters outside the hearing room, Cassidy said bluntly that if ACIP later this week rescinds its recommendation for universal Hep B vaccination of newborns, the American people should not trust it.

“We have decreased from 20,000 kids a year getting Hepatitis B to like 20 a year. That’s an exponential decline,” he said. “And by the way, it’s not a mandate. It’s just something that the mother can have should she wish.”
 
^one point generally not being covered is if ACIp rescinds the recommendation, I believe federal funding gets pulled for people who can't afford the vaccines, also opens the door to insurance companies dumping the coverage, but it would be pretty fucking stupid to do so from an insurance payout standpoint as a vaccine is a lot cheaper than a treating Hep A based liver damage in children.
 
altmin said:
^one point generally not being covered is if ACIp rescinds the recommendation, I believe federal funding gets pulled for people who can't afford the vaccines, also opens the door to insurance companies dumping the coverage, but it would be pretty fucking stupid to do so from an insurance payout standpoint as a vaccine is a lot cheaper than a treating Hep A based liver damage in children.
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That’s not how they work though, otherwise they’d pay for insulin or inhalers full cost. Also Cassidy can go fuck himself, he’s a doctor, he knew what was coming. Truly can’t understand a physician voting for Trump (outside of awful surgeons)
 
JCTarheel82 said:
Mullin sounds like a plumber cosplaying as a US Senator. Dude doesn't even understand basic subject/verb agreement. The citizens of Oklahoma should be ashamed of electing him to office.

And of course, it turns out he was the one lying in that exchange while accusing Monarez of being dishonest.
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Agreed that Oklahoma should be ashamed, but this is the state that also elected that brilliant promoter of critical thinking and high quality public education, Ryan Walters, as Superintendent of Public Schools. I believe it is also the only state in which every single county voted for Trump last year. In that sense Mullin perfectly symbolizes that state, and that's not a compliment.
 
I doubt Markwayne Mullin is stupid.

He’s like the Louisiana Senator, Kennedy. He’s portraying a dumbfuck bumpkin when it benefits him.

Plenty of video of Markwayne using was/were and other words, including verbs, correctly.

Is he well educated? No.

Is he smart? Yes.

Is he evil? Yes.

Is he smart enough to use was/were correctly? Plenty of video showing him doing so.

He’s Jesse Helms or George Wallace in his bigotry and shrewdness…..”I’m just a good ol’ boy……”
 


“… Martin Kulldorff, chair of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, announced the plans at the start of a meeting where the panelists are considering eliminating a recommendation to provide hepatitis B shots to all infants at birth. That would be the first major change to the child vaccine schedule under Kennedy.

Kulldorff signaled more may come because the panel will establish work groups to review vaccines given during childhood and adolescence, as well as pregnancy.

During a fiery Senate hearing on Wednesday, former CDC director Susan Monarez testified she was fired after refusing to rubber stamp ACIP’s vaccine changes, which she said would undermine “scientific integrity.” She and top CDC leaders who recently resigned have blasted members of the committee — whom Kennedy selected after firing their predecessors — for past criticism of vaccines.…”
 
For at least the next 3.5 years, Americans will be required to live in two different worlds. One will take vaccine recommendations from the experts. The other will take vaccine recommendations from Trump and RFK's CDC.

I STRONGLY encourage everyone to listen to the experts.
 
lawtig02 said:
For at least the next 3.5 years, Americans will be required to live in two different worlds. One will take vaccine recommendations from the experts. The other will take vaccine recommendations from Trump and RFK's CDC.

I STRONGLY encourage everyone to listen to the experts.
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I've had the long term RSV and just had the long term pneumonia vaccine. I also got the flu vaccine and my doctor sent a prescription for the Covid shot to my pharmacy. Guess which side I'm on.
 
The committee today recommended that the combination MMRV vaccine not be given until 4 years of age due to the risk of febrile seizures when the MMRV dose is given as the first varicella dose.

Notably they are not recommending changing the actual schedule of vaccination.

The vote on pushing back the hepatitis B vaccine was deferred to tomorrow.
 
nrsair said:
The committee today recommended that the combination MMRV vaccine not be given until 4 years of age due to the risk of febrile seizures when the MMRV dose is given as the first varicella dose.

Notably they are not recommending changing the actual schedule of vaccination.

The vote on pushing back the hepatitis B vaccine was deferred to tomorrow.
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But they also required, by 8-1 vote, that Vaccines for Children provide the MMRV shot.

Because half the committee was appointed this week and they had no idea what they were doing. One member abstained on several votes because they were too confused. It does not appear that the committee understood what it was voting for.
 
Just as an added point of info, we typically don’t give mmrv before 4. we usually give them separate at 12 months and then the combined at 4
 
nrsair said:
The committee today recommended that the combination MMRV vaccine not be given until 4 years of age due to the risk of febrile seizures when the MMRV dose is given as the first varicella dose.

Notably they are not recommending changing the actual schedule of vaccination.

The vote on pushing back the hepatitis B vaccine was deferred to tomorrow.
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"Complications are most common in children under 5 years and adults over age 30."

www.who.int

Measles

Measles remains one of the leading causes of death among young children globally, despite the availability of a safe and effective vaccine.
www.who.int www.who.int
 
altmin said:
"Complications are most common in children under 5 years and adults over age 30."

www.who.int

Measles

Measles remains one of the leading causes of death among young children globally, despite the availability of a safe and effective vaccine.
www.who.int www.who.int
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I will pay out of pocket for any traditional vaccine schedule for my numerous Grandchildren . I ain't rich-but damn I am richer than about 50% of folks. This is sheeet
 
uncjhodges said:
Just as an added point of info, we typically don’t give mmrv before 4. we usually give them separate at 12 months and then the combined at 4
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superrific said:
But they also required, by 8-1 vote, that Vaccines for Children provide the MMRV shot.

Because half the committee was appointed this week and they had no idea what they were doing. One member abstained on several votes because they were too confused. It does not appear that the committee understood what it was voting for.
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Yes, it’s extremely disorganized. They are re-doing the vaccines for children vote right now.

 
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