RIP President Carter

superrific said:
Well, Reagan swept nearly every state in 1980, so that shift isn't all that significant. The problem with this sort of analysis is that the 80, 84, and 88 elections were not really competitive. So it's hard to say how fast the south was moving toward the GOP.

Clinton won about half the southern states. I think Clinton hastened the process inadvertently, by giving his wife a platform and HRC made conservatives so mad because she had an accomplished career.
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Nixon swept the entire South by huge margins in 1972, and so I do think it was rather impressive for Carter to win nearly all of it back, even if temporarily. I think the change started in 1964 when LBJ lost 5 Deep South states to Goldwater in what was clearly a reaction to his promoting the Civil Rights Bill and civil rights in general. Nixon followed a "Southern strategy" in 1968 and carried both Carolinas, Virginia, Florida, Tennessee, and Kentucky, while leaving the rest to Wallace (Humphrey did carry, barely, Texas). So I do think the region was already moving Republican and Carter's win was clearly a temporary break in that gradual shift. And so I disagree that the Reagan shift in 1980 wasn't significant. Clinton's recovery was also clearly temporary as well, as Gore lost every Southern state in 2000, including his home state of Tennessee.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
Nixon swept the entire South by huge margins in 1972, and so I do think it was rather impressive for Carter to win nearly all of it back, even if temporarily. I think the change started in 1964 when LBJ lost 5 Deep South states to Goldwater in what was clearly a reaction to his promoting the Civil Rights Bill and civil rights in general. Nixon followed a "Southern strategy" in 1968 and carried both Carolinas, Virginia, Florida, Tennessee, and Kentucky, while leaving the rest to Wallace (Humphrey did carry, barely, Texas). So I do think the region was already moving Republican and Carter's win was clearly a temporary break in that gradual shift. And so I disagree that the Reagan shift in 1980 wasn't significant. Clinton's recovery was also clearly temporary as well, as Gore lost every Southern state in 2000, including his home state of Tennessee.
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Well, Nixon won the entire country in 1972. I'm not going to argue this point, as 1) it's not really a matter that can be debated at such an abstractly high level; 2) if it were, I wouldn't be the right guy to delve deep into the weeds; and 3) it's probably not worth anyone's time.

Let's do this: can we agree that neither 72 nor 80 are very good control groups (or reference points) because the elections were such blowouts? It's not a clean comparison to 76; maybe as you say there is still useful information there, or maybe not. The information given by the 2000 election and then the 2008 election is considerably more useful.
 
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Trump Hammers Jimmy Carter Before His Body Is in the Ground

The president-elect is still ticked that the U.S. no longer owns the Panama Canal.
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"...The president-elect—as just part of a complaint-laden screed—slammed Carter in a news conference over his decades-old decision to relinquish control of the Panama Canal to Panama.

“Jimmy Carter gave it to them for $1 and they were supposed to treat us well,” Trump said of the canal. “I thought it was a terrible thing to do. It was the most expensive structure ever built in the history of our country.”

... “Nobody wants to talk about the Panama Canal now,” he said. “It’s inappropriate, I guess, because it’s a bad part of the Carter legacy.”

The president-elect offered some measured praise for the 39th president, calling him “a good man” and “a very fine person.” Not to let his point be forgotten, however, Trump reminded again that “giving the Panama Canal to Panama was a very big mistake.”

“And I believe that’s why Jimmy Carter lost the election in my opinion, more-so maybe than the hostages,” Trump said, referring to the Iran Hostage Crisis that saw U.S. diplomats be held in captivity for over a year. ..."
 
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A woman convicted of murder became the Carters’ beloved White House nanny​

Mary Prince went from a Georgia prisoner to Amy Carter’s White House caretaker. It’s a story difficult to imagine in any modern presidency but Jimmy Carter’s.

“… Prince met her court-appointed lawyer only once before she entered the courtroom, where he persuaded her to plead guilty in exchange for a reduced sentence. Instead, Prince was sentenced to life in prison. “She was young, black and penniless so she did as he told her,” Rosalynn Carter wrote in her memoir, “First Lady From Plains.”

… Less than a year after her conviction, Prince was working in the governor’s mansion as a “trusty.” Georgia and some other Southern states have a long-running practice of using inmate labor in their capitols and governors’ mansions. In her memoir, Rosalynn Carter wrote that she learned firsthand about the “inadequacies and inequality in our judicial system” from the female prisoners who worked for her family in the mansion.

Currently, 17 state prisoners are assigned to the Georgia governor’s mansion, according to a spokeswoman for the Georgia Department of Corrections.

… When Prince joined the Carters in Washington, she became the country’s most famous nanny. The Miami Herald ran a story about her criminal case with the headline “The Night Amy Carter’s Nanny Became a Murderess.” “Saturday Night Live” featured her in a skit, with Sissy Spacek playing Amy and comedian Garrett Morris in drag playing Prince.

“I was worldwide news,” Prince told Brower. “Going from prison to the White House.” …”
 
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