Roy Cooper makes it official

SnoopRob said:
If Cooper wins, it will be because (IMHO) he does well in the suburbs where a lot of folks don't necessarily trust Dems but they aren't necessarily crazy about MAGA, either. A lot of those folks are persuaded to vote Pub because they don't always like what Dems stand for at the national level, but if Cooper can convince them he'll be an actual centrist Dem, they could very well vote for him against a Trump-aligned Republican.
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Charlotts suburbian folks on "the old board" claim they were the difference in the Mccroy-Cooper race
 
mpaer said:
Charlotts suburbian folks on "the old board" claim they were the difference in the Mccroy-Cooper race
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That race was close enough that it was probably decided by the Huntersville to Mooresville corridor, which was pissed about McCrory’s toll road deal. But I’ve given up counting on the Charlotte and Raleigh suburbs to pull us through. Dems will have to improve on the margins among all demographics to win these types of races in NC.
 
lawtig02 said:
That race was close enough that it was probably decided by the Huntersville to Mooresville corridor, which was pissed about McCrory’s toll road deal. But I’ve given up counting on the Charlotte and Raleigh suburbs to pull us through. Dems will have to improve on the margins among all demographics to win these types of races in NC.
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Never ever doubt Durhams ability to hold out-wait for a number needed -and then deliver.............
 
This is purely, purely anecdotal and obviously anecdote is not the plural of data, but I’ve got a very large, very pro-Trump extended family, all of whom are in rural parts of the state, and the majority of them don’t care to vote in midterms or anytime Donald Trump is not directly on the ballot. If they are an indicator of how some other rural pro-Trumpers feel and behave, I can foresee that kind of thing being a problem for the GOP in this race against Cooper next year. Michael Whatley is a no-name nobody running against a popular former governor who is a pragmatic and as centrist as Democrats come.
 
CFordUNC said:
This is purely, purely anecdotal and obviously anecdote is not the plural of data, but I’ve got a very large, very pro-Trump extended family, all of whom are in rural parts of the state, and the majority of them don’t care to vote in midterms or anytime Donald Trump is not directly on the ballot. If they are an indicator of how some other rural pro-Trumpers feel and behave, I can foresee that kind of thing being a problem for the GOP in this race against Cooper next year. Michael Whatley is a no-name nobody running against a popular former governor who is a pragmatic and as centrist as Democrats come.
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Sounds good to me !
 
Just in general, turn out is key in the non-POTUS election years.

In POTUS years, Cooper relied on people like myself splitting tickets and going Trump/Cooper, and that pulled him through.

But obviously in 2026 the overall turnout will be much much smaller. So in this race, turn out is probably more important to focus on than trying to win the split tickets, IMO
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
She has advocated for abolishing ICE in the past. The tweet I shared was just her recent overreaction from a week ago. A lot of the Loony Left boldly advocated for abolishing ICE in 2018. And now as recently as a week ago she refers to ICE as “rogue”
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What does the "loony left" (supposedly) advocating for abolishing ICE in 2018 have to do with whether you would vote for Roy Cooper in 2026?

Because there is one (fringe) House member who has advocated abolishing ICE in the past and currently shares the frustration a majority of Americans have for ICE's thuggish tactics - that means you can't vote for Roy Cooper for Senate even if you like him and he's never personally advocated for anything approaching that? How does that possibly make sense?

I mean have you compared this to the craziest things Republican House members advocate for?
 
SnoopRob said:
I am always amused when a whole bunch of y'all act like HeelYeah is a rational being on political issues.

Yes, he presents better than ramrouser or calla, but he's no less taken by propaganda or bigotry than they are. He just hides it better.
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He's a good example of fairly middle-of-the-road conservatives who consider themselves good and kind people (and probably are mostly that in their everyday interactions) and who consider themselves to be supporters of vague concepts like liberty and justice but also can't really bring themselves to care that much about, say, US citizens being detained, arrested, or deported in violation of the law when the people it's happening to are those with Hispanic last names.
 
CFordUNC said:
This is purely, purely anecdotal and obviously anecdote is not the plural of data, but I’ve got a very large, very pro-Trump extended family, all of whom are in rural parts of the state, and the majority of them don’t care to vote in midterms or anytime Donald Trump is not directly on the ballot. If they are an indicator of how some other rural pro-Trumpers feel and behave, I can foresee that kind of thing being a problem for the GOP in this race against Cooper next year. Michael Whatley is a no-name nobody running against a popular former governor who is a pragmatic and as centrist as Democrats come.
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I think this is true for a lot of Trump voters. He riled up a lot of people who had been otherwise unengaged in politics and are generally just unengaged in information. To them he was a breath of fresh air.

Ironically, the “all politicians are crooks” crowd voted for the biggest one of all. But absent Trump, they’re not voting for the other crooks.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
Jayapal has been losing her mind about ICE as recently as like last week.
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Losing her mind? Jayapal? Or the masked armed men in vans who are beating citizens without any cause whatsoever? You think the problem lies with people who don't want innocent people to get their heads smashed into concrete?

REALLY?

I don't know your whole deal, but you should be ashamed. This type of abject stupidity is worse than someone who admits they don't vote for the n* party.
 
rodoheel said:
What does the "loony left" (supposedly) advocating for abolishing ICE in 2018 have to do with whether you would vote for Roy Cooper in 2026?

Because there is one (fringe) House member who has advocated abolishing ICE in the past and currently shares the frustration a majority of Americans have for ICE's thuggish tactics - that means you can't vote for Roy Cooper for Senate even if you like him and he's never personally advocated for anything approaching that? How does that possibly make sense?
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Note: Jayapal has never called for an end to immigration enforcement. I'm pretty sure "Abolish ICE" means "transfer its function to a trained law enforcement organization that will follow the law and also not hire white supremacists to beat the shit out of people."

I think it makes perfect sense for him to vote based on party position. I have a former student now active in politics. I liked the guy and he was smart. But he's GOP. I would never vote for him for any office because I would be voting to give the GOP more control over the legislative process.

The problem is that this poster is apparently deluded about what Dems support on a national level.
 
CFordUNC said:
This is purely, purely anecdotal and obviously anecdote is not the plural of data,
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Data is the plural of datum. LOL. That's not on you -- that's how the saying is often (or even usually) recited. And I have no issues with sayings that accurately convey important concepts, even if they make a obscure language error.

It just gives me a little smirk that, technically, the phrase defeats itself. In this dark age, we sometimes have to find a bit of enjoyment wherever we can.
 
Zoo_View said:
Roy Cooper and Josh Stein have done yeoman’s work electing themselves……,Ditto for Obama……..have any done shit building a Democratic Party??
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I do think Anderson Clayton will turn the state blue…… in about 20 years.

For too long, the Dems were happy to concede the rural areas to the GOP. She is working to change that, but it’s going to be a long drawn out process with small, incremental advancements.
 
He's Not Here said:
I do think Anderson Clayton will turn the state blue…… in about 20 years.

For too long, the Dems were happy to concede the rural areas to the GOP. She is working to change that, but it’s going to be a long drawn out process with small, incremental advancements.
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She's young. She's got time.
 
superrific said:
Data is the plural of datum. LOL. That's not on you -- that's how the saying is often (or even usually) recited. And I have no issues with sayings that accurately convey important concepts, even if they make a obscure language error.

It just gives me a little smirk that, technically, the phrase defeats itself. In this dark age, we sometimes have to find a bit of enjoyment wherever we can.
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Ha hey you know I always appreciate the teaching!

This is what happens when a dummy (me) tries to sound smart.
 
lawtig02 said:
That race was close enough that it was probably decided by the Huntersville to Mooresville corridor, which was pissed about McCrory’s toll road deal. But I’ve given up counting on the Charlotte and Raleigh suburbs to pull us through. Dems will have to improve on the margins among all demographics to win these types of races in NC.
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I agree. I remember looking up the numbers after the McCrory re-election bid was over and the number of votes that shifted from R to D in Mecklenburg County alone was more than Cooper's margin of victory. I believed that during McCrory's previous winning campaign for Governor, there were a lot of folks in Mecklenburg County who thought that they knew him. And believed he was just a Chamber of Commerce type Republican who wouldn't do anything crazy. And the next four years proved that McCrory was absolutely spineless and would twist and bend in whatever direction the money was coming from. In Mecklenburg County, the wind was from blowing from the don't screw up business growth/opportunities direction. When Governor of North Carolina, the wind was blowing from the right-wing Jihadist sector of the GOP.
 
He's Not Here said:
I do think Anderson Clayton will turn the state blue…… in about 20 years.

For too long, the Dems were happy to concede the rural areas to the GOP. She is working to change that, but it’s going to be a long drawn out process with small, incremental advancements.
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Individuals don't matter very much. Demographic trends are far, far more important. A good political organizer can nibble at the edges, but policy shifts and where people move from will play a larger role.
 
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