Russia - Ukraine “peace negotiations”

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nycfan said:


“… He may more likely be remembered for having broken with decades of foreign policy embraced by Republican and Democratic Presidents, alienating NATO allies, and siding with Russia in its war with Ukraine. In his interview with TIME, Trump blamed Kyiv for initiating the war. “I think what caused the war to start was when they started talking about joining NATO,” the President says. The negotiated peace he is pursuing would hand Vladimir Putin some 20% of Ukrainian territory. “Crimea will stay with Russia,” Trump says. …”
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Traitor
 
theel4life said:
It’s either that or they have extremely damming information on him. It’s so obvious.
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i can't even imagine what would be damning at this point. his base are propagandized morons living in an alternate reality who don't give a flying fuck and neither does he. he's gonna be 79 years old in a month, the end is near, he and his movement are attempting to burn down the entire system in this country.

what does he have to lose?

one of the truest things he ever said was the "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters" line.
 
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Russia and the US already signed Territorial integrity agreement when Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons

That's when Putin knew he could and would invade

Without Ukraine Russia will never be a world power again

www.brookings.edu

The Trilateral Process: The United States, Ukraine, Russia and Nuclear Weapons

When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, Ukraine had the world’s third largest nuclear arsenal on its territory. When Ukrainian-Russian negotiations on removing these weapons from Ukraine appeared to break down in September 1993, the U.S. government engaged in a trilateral process with Ukraine...
www.brookings.edu www.brookings.edu
 
evrheel said:
Russia and the US already signed Territorial integrity agreement when Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons

That's when Putin knew he could and would invade

Without Ukraine Russia will never be a world power again

www.brookings.edu

The Trilateral Process: The United States, Ukraine, Russia and Nuclear Weapons

When the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, Ukraine had the world’s third largest nuclear arsenal on its territory. When Ukrainian-Russian negotiations on removing these weapons from Ukraine appeared to break down in September 1993, the U.S. government engaged in a trilateral process with Ukraine...
www.brookings.edu www.brookings.edu
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I was going to say that deal doesn't look too bad for Ukraine, suprisingly.

Then I noticed that it was a counter proposal. To be clear, this is the EU's offering, right? Neither the US nor Russia has signed on?
 
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