Russia - Ukraine “peace negotiations”

[8992Tiger]

Trump isn’t unique…….he’s not an American original.

We’ve had people like Trump……we’ll have them again.

We hope Trump is unique. He’s not.

Trump is commonplace in America.

This realization is why my anger, at times, turns more to disappointment and despair. I have come to realize that is who America is, and I am increasingly out of step.

I suppose, at best, many of his voters were willing to overlook his numerous faults in return for a "good" economy. Of course we know the irony; we had a good economy, but it seems to have pivoted to the wrong direction in the last 100 days. I hope the next person who promises a "good" economy isn't such an amoral, narcissistic moron.

 

[nycfan]

“… bullet train to chump town …” and “… jacked around Trump …”?

 

[evrheel]

Sen. John Kennedy: America is paying the price for Biden's appeasement​

Sen. John Kennedy: America is paying the price for Biden's appeasement | Fox News Video

Sen. John Kennedy, R-La., weighs in on the state of negotiations to end the war in Ukraine, why Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon and whether the Trump administration is in compliance regarding the deportation of Kilmar Abrego Garcia.

www.foxnews.com

 

[HandsonFire]

Sen. John Kennedy: America is paying the price for Biden's appeasement​

Sen. John Kennedy: America is paying the price for Biden's appeasement | Fox News Video

Sen. John Kennedy, R-La., weighs in on the state of negotiations to end the war in Ukraine, why Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon and whether the Trump administration is in compliance regarding the deportation of Kilmar Abrego Garcia.

www.foxnews.com

Amazing the headline they got that interview is Bidens appeasement to blame. Trump has been softer than baby shit with Putin.

 

[heelinhell]

Amazing the headline they got that interview is Bidens appeasement to blame. Trump has been softer than baby shit with Putin.

I still blame Reagan appeasing Iran back in 1981 by sending them weapons in exchange for hostages

 

[theel4life]

It’s all Biden and Obamas fault. Always will be.

 

[nycfan]

Putin announces unilateral three-day ceasefire in Ukraine from May 8​

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/28/europe/putin-announces-ceasefire-may-intl/index.html

“Russian President Vladimir Putin has unilaterally declared a three-day ceasefire in Ukraine from May 8-11 to coincide with World War II commemorations and called on Kyiv to do the same, the Kremlin said Monday.

The Kremlin said the decision was based on “humanitarian considerations” and a truce would be held from midnight on May 7-8 to midnight on May 10-11 to mark the 80th anniversary of Victory Day and the defeat of Nazi Germany. …”

[Developing story]

 

[theel4life]

Putin announces unilateral three-day ceasefire in Ukraine from May 8​

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/28/europe/putin-announces-ceasefire-may-intl/index.html

“Russian President Vladimir Putin has unilaterally declared a three-day ceasefire in Ukraine from May 8-11 to coincide with World War II commemorations and called on Kyiv to do the same, the Kremlin said Monday.

The Kremlin said the decision was based on “humanitarian considerations” and a truce would be held from midnight on May 7-8 to midnight on May 10-11 to mark the 80th anniversary of Victory Day and the defeat of Nazi Germany. …”

[Developing story]

lol

 

[nycfan]

 

[BlueSmoke]

Sen. John Kennedy: America is paying the price for Biden's appeasement​

Sen. John Kennedy: America is paying the price for Biden's appeasement | Fox News Video

Sen. John Kennedy, R-La., weighs in on the state of negotiations to end the war in Ukraine, why Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon and whether the Trump administration is in compliance regarding the deportation of Kilmar Abrego Garcia.

www.foxnews.com

Uh.........FOX has hidden the real significance of these comments with its headline. This Republican Senator claims we are in a knife fight with Russia, and that Putin has disrespected and jacked Trump around at every turn.

Wonder if Trump has heard this news?

 

[BlueSmoke]

Of course he wants a truce. Can't have Ukraine drones invited to his Red Square parade.

 

[nycfan]

Rubio Says Trump Will Decide This Week on Continuing Ukraine War Talks​

Secretary of State Marco Rubio said there are reasons to be optimistic, but also asserted there are “other issues” on which the administration wants to spend its energy.

Rubio Says Trump Will Decide This Week on Continuing Ukraine War Talks

Secretary of State Marco Rubio said there are reasons to be optimistic, but also asserted there are “other issues” on which the administration wants to spend its energy.

www.nytimes.com

“… This week will be “very important,” Mr. Rubio said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

“We have to make a determination about whether this is an endeavor that we want to continue to be involved in or if it’s time to sort of focus on some other issues that are equally if not more important in some cases.”

“But we want to see it happen,” he added. “There are reasons to be optimistic, but there are reasons to be realistic of course as well. We’re close, but we’re not close enough.”

Mr. Rubio did not give further details of the state of the talks.

It was not clear if the timeline he offered was meant to pressure Ukraine and Russia to agree to enter direct discussions toward a deal, or whether President Trump and his aides were seriously considering walking away. …”

 

[superrific]

Who actually wants the US to be involved in the peace negotiations, other than Putin perhaps. Like, is this a threat or an inducement?

 

[Healing]

Who actually wants the US to be involved in the peace negotiations, other than Putin perhaps. Like, is this a threat or an inducement?

I think keeping the line open with Trump allows Zelenskyy to occasionally land benefits of the “last person trump talked to” phenomenon. Trump is a Russian asset, not just a sympathizer, IMO, that said, his narcissism overrides any other motivator/alliance. I think it’s likely Zelenskyy is slowing Trump fully supporting Russia’s invasion, by occasionally lavishing him with compliments and inducements (ie the mythical minerals deal).

 

[BlueSteel]

Promises broken...

During his 2024 presidential campaign, Donald Trump repeatedly claimed he could end the Russia-Ukraine war within 24 hours of taking office. He suggested that a single phone call to Russian President Vladimir Putin and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy would suffice to broker peace, emphasizing his personal rapport with both leaders. In one instance, he stated, "That is a war that’s dying to be settled. I will get it settled before I even become president." (AP News)

 

[nycfan]

 

[gtyellowjacket]

I think this is close to what the peace treaty is going to end up. I doubt Russia will get recognition of the annexation, but they will keep the land like Crimea. I don't see demilitarization as realistic. No one is trusting Putin not to invade and Russia won't accept a Western force on their doorstep. I think they could probably fluff the nazi stuff by arresting a couple of the ultra nationalist party leaders, but if Russia is going to expand the definition of Nazi to Zelinsky and his party, I suspect the war will go on. And I don't think Ukraine would ever agree to the last one, although in some ways that is the easiest to agree to and ignore after the treaty is signed.

 

[Bobfripp]

I think they could probably fluff the nazi stuff by arresting a couple of the ultra nationalist party leaders

Say what? Who would arrest them? On what charges?

 

[uncjhodges]

I think keeping the line open with Trump allows Zelenskyy to occasionally land benefits of the “last person trump talked to” phenomenon. Trump is a Russian asset, not just a sympathizer, IMO, that said, his narcissism overrides any other motivator/alliance. I think it’s likely Zelenskyy is slowing Trump fully supporting Russia’s invasion, by occasionally lavishing him with compliments and inducements (ie the mythical minerals deal).

I don’t think Trump is a Russian asset. He’s far too effective and competent for him to actually be trying to do this. It would be thing he’s best at in the world. He’s Just a useful idiot

 

[gtyellowjacket]

Say what? Who would arrest them? On what charges?

The Ukraine government. They arrested opposition politicians on treason charges. They arrested priests on collaborationism charges. They arrested a journalist for justifying the invasion of Crimea. I suspect they can find a charge or two to arrest a few hard right politicians.