Russia - Ukraine “peace negotiations”

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Trump Says Putin Is ‘Playing With Fire’​

President has indicated he is weighing additional sanctions on Russia, potentially as soon as this week​


🎁 —> https://www.wsj.com/world/russia/tr...06?st=yacc5u&reflink=mobilewebshare_permalink

[seems like credulous reporting — Mr. Vlad Stop! has yet to demonstrate he will actually do anything meaningful to pressure Russia unless Congress forces him to do so and as noted above seem to be claiming credit for running interference for Putin and Russia in the past]
 
nycfan said:

Trump Says Putin Is ‘Playing With Fire’​

President has indicated he is weighing additional sanctions on Russia, potentially as soon as this week​


🎁 —> https://www.wsj.com/world/russia/tr...06?st=yacc5u&reflink=mobilewebshare_permalink

[seems like credulous reporting — Mr. Vlad Stop! has yet to demonstrate he will actually do anything meaningful to pressure Russia unless Congress forces him to do so and as noted above seem to be claiming credit for running interference for Putin and Russia in the past]
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Bullshit. Trump is a lot of things but he's NOT fire.
 
nycfan said:
I mean, they are a murderous kleptocracy that deserves zero credit for much of anything, but RT is not wrong about Trump’s history of erratic threats with little to no follow-up in this case.
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I have been puzzled by Putin's inability to handle Trump better then he is. But I'm beginning to think Putin think's Trump is so messed up that he's more trouble then he's worth. Putin handles these types every day. The Korean nut comes to mind.
 
BlueSmoke said:
I have been puzzled by Putin's inability to handle Trump better then he is. But I'm beginning to think Putin think's Trump is so messed up that he's more trouble then he's worth. Putin handles these types every day. The Korean nut comes to mind.
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I think Putin is handling Trump just fine for what Putin is trying to accomplish. Putin would probably rather Trump be a little quieter about their relationship, and so some of the war of words here is probably for show.

The reality is that Russia has continued to wage war with impunity, and that will remain true unless and until the Europeans do something. So Putin is getting what he wants.
 
I don't think it has been reported on this thread that Germany is saying that they and the EU are removing the range restrictions on Ukraine for using their weapons. This will affect the Uk's Storm Shadow missile which Ukraine already has and would affect Germany's Taurus missile if Ukraine gets that one. The Taurus packs a large payload and has much further range and is very expensive. (like 25 million per) Generally requires the F-16 fighter to launch from the air. Which Ukraine has recently received from Europe. And trained on.

While that price for the missile might seem counter productive, keep in mind what if Ukraine could take out the factory that Russia produces its missiles which Ukraine has to have the American Patriot to shoot down. Each Patriot missile is very expensive and not likely to keep coming from the United States.

Not to mention, if an oil refinery or two were completely taken out how devastating that would be for Russian oil revenues and war effort. So maybe the EU is getting with it.
 
One thing to keep in mind is that Russia is really dependent on its railroad system for war and economic logistics. Their railroads use mostly electricity. There seems to be some evidence that it is beginning to have issues maintaining its rail system.

One sign of this is that its coal exports have been trending down which has to be transported by rail. Some of this may be due to sanctions and less demand. But the trend seems to be significant and the rail system might have something to do with it.
 

Putin Has Retooled Russia’s Economy to Focus Only on War​

Moscow expands military recruitment and boosts weapons production, and peace could jeopardize economic gains​


🎁 —> https://www.wsj.com/world/russia/ru...58?st=PQTLsk&reflink=mobilewebshare_permalink

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“It is absolutely imperative for Russia to continue to rely on the military industry, because it [has] become the driver of economic growth,” said Alexander Kolyandr, a senior fellow at the Center for European Policy Analysis. “For a while, it will be next to impossible for Russia to reduce military spending.”

Russia’s arms industry has enjoyed billions of dollars in stimulus in recent years to boost production lines and keep them running at breakneck speed 24 hours a day. The influx of cash has boosted wages—partly to compete with military payouts—and fueled rising living standards for thousands of Russians in the country’s poorer backwaters.

… If the war does end in Ukraine, some of Russia’s neighbors worry its war economy might be refocused on them.

In the Baltics, Estonian military planners grimly discuss the possibility of war spilling into the North Atlantic Treaty Organization territory. In Kazakhstan, analysts carefully watch for signals that Russia could make a move into the north of the country, where a large ethnic Russian population still lives.…”
 
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