Russia - Ukraine “peace negotiations”

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Russian propagandists claims Ukraine attacked passenger train inside Russia, Ukraine propagandists claim the only trains they targeted were for military resupply trains in occupied Ukraine. I sort of doubt Putin has any compunctions about using his citizen as human shields one way or another, but Ukraine has been willing to strike in Russia. TBD on details …
 
nycfan said:

Ukraine Says It Destroyed Dozens of Warplanes Deep Inside Russia​

Clandestine drone attack, 18 months in planning, deals biggest blow of the war against Moscow’s long-range bomber fleet​

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“… Ukrainian intelligence officials said the agency moved dozens of small quadcopter drones to Russian territory. It then moved wooden containers to Russia, which were used to hide the drones ahead of the attack. When it came time to strike, the containers were placed on trucks and the lids of the containers were opened remotely. The swarm of drones flew out to find their targets.

In a video posted to social media, a drone appeared to take off out of a container with a buzzing sound. Shots rang out in an apparent attempt to down it. Another drone flew out of the container in the same direction. In another video, an explosion strikes a plane parked at an airport.

“This is not yet a knockout, but quite a serious knockdown for the enemy,” said Iryna Vereshchuk, a top official in Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s office. “This is exactly what wars of the future will look like.”

The scope of the damage would take time to assess but it appeared to be a significant blow to Russia’s long-range aviation capacity, said Justin Bronk, a senior research fellow at the Royal United Services Institute in London.

“Ukrainian special services have struck by far the heaviest blow of the war against the Russian Long Range Aviation bomber fleet,” Bronk said.

Russian and Ukrainian delegations are set to meet on Monday in Istanbul for negotiations aimed at ending the war. Zelensky said Ukrainians are demanding a full cease-fire, the release of prisoners and the return of the children Russia abducted. Russia hasn’t sent its proposals ahead of the talks, Ukrainian officials said. …”

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The article says this took 18 months to plan.
 
BlooVooDoo said:
I was wondering about that. It did seem rather intentional in divulging operational details. The relative simplicity of it, as well as how deep into Russia the strikes occurred, might also send the message that nothing is out of reach.
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Modern Doolittle Raid, but actually accomplished something other than psychological warfare.
 
altmin said:
Modern Doolittle Raid, but actually accomplished something other than psychological warfare.
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My understanding is the Doolittle raid resulted in about 250k Chinese deaths, as reprisal. Hopefully Putin doesn’t have the resources for similar atrocities (nukes aside 😬).
 
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