Russia - Ukraine “peace negotiations”

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Healing said:
If there was a way to prove it, I’d wager $10k the Ram fellatiator genuflected to his trump cardboard cutout, in front of his family.

ETA: bc remember, he bought one for Thanksgiving, bc not in a cult.
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Omg lololol I had forgotten he talked about buying a Trump cardboard cutout.
 
nycfan said:
Many foreign leaders have gotten a ride on the presidential limo over the years. Not a Soviet leader or Putin, and not all the time, but not unprecedented…
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Your second sentence contradicts your first. It is absolutely unprecedented for the leader of an adversary to ride in the US Presidential limo.
 
Ramrouser said:
You take all this way too seriously and you over think everything. I get a kick out of Trump especially the way he triggers all of you on EVERYTHING he does . Thus, it amuses me to quote the NATO head and call him “Daddy Trump.” . You guys watch his every move and listen to everything he says wanting to get angry and to declare that THIS thing he’s done today is the worst since 1939 or this is the end of our republic. He had a short meeting with Putin today which may lead to a ceasefire or peace. Trump’s speaking with Zelensky now and coordinating with the European powers.

It’s gonna be ok. Have a nice weekend.
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No, I can assure you that I do not watch his every move or listen to ANYTHING he says because the motherfucker is so categorically stupid, arrogant, mean spirited, and petty that giving him an audience should be a criminal offense.
 
superrific said:
Seems a bit extreme. There are lurkers who read the board who might benefit from rebuttals to his bullshit. And also I like to teach, and sometimes when I'm in a grumpy mood, teaching is what helps.

I mean, you and I -- most people on the board -- are allies, right? We don't agree on everything, and maybe after Trump we will disagree on a lot more stuff. What will not be forgotten is your decency, sincerity and commitment to ideals over expedience.
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Fair enough and good point. It was an overreaction in disgust of Trump's display.
 
ZZLPHeels said:
Fellating Putin isn’t negotiating from strength. It is quite the opposite. MAGA may be gullible chumps, but Putin isn’t. He embarrassed us today, and he knows it.
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WTH did we expect? Putin plays Trump like a fiddle. TBF, he scammed Obama and W as well.

First Rule of KGB.
 
I've been watching Fox Infotainment since the end of the Putin and Trump statements. Not something I really enjoy, but the change on the issue is alarming!

I am sure it has something to do with the unfavorability polls of Putin shared earlier in this thread. Also, the percent of Republicans favoring American support for Ukraine in both money and arms is up 10 points to 51% now.

Fox has completely changed it's tune and is completely trashing Putin, going so far as to admit the obvious finally, that Putin invaded Ukraine, and if he truly wanted peace, he is the one that stands in the way. "If he truly wanted peace, all he has to do is leave Uktaine that he attacked." They even had one guy trying the old Fox defense of Russia, and they all shut him down immediately.

Now, let's not get crazy here. They still somehow twisted everything to Trump was dominant here, holds all the cards and was toying with Putin. They ignored all of Trump's ass kissing.

But here's my main takeaway. Say what you will about Fox and and the terrible administration. Sure, they are still lying about how Trump handled this. But this is where they kick the asses of Dems. When the tide turns and they are on the wrong side of the vast majority of Americans (80%+ unfavorable rating of Putin and Russia, even MAGAts) they pivot to a reasonable stance.

Conversely, as an example of the Dems, take the issue of "pronouns" and trans females competing in women's sports. Clearly not a fraction as important as today's meeting. But 95% of Americans are against that nonsense. It DOES matter to voters. And Dems just dug in deeper over ridiculous meaningless issues. Yuge "L" last election cycle. Out of touch Dems, complete election night ass kicking.
 
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