Russia - Ukraine “peace negotiations”

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You guys here really comfort yourselves saying MAGA is a cult. What a lazy take. I’m critical of Trump when I disagree with him. I just happen to think he’s done a great job these first 6 months.

Why aren’t you willing to see how this plays about before declaring it a 2nd Afghanistan? Trump is negotiating from strength because if this fails he’s already told Putin that he’ll impose 50% tariffs on India if it purchases oil from Russia. It’s sounding like they’ve made progress today with a good first start.
 
Ramrouser said:
You guys here really comfort yourselves saying MAGA is a cult. What a lazy take. I’m critical of Trump when I disagree with him. I just happen to think he’s done a great job these first 6 months.

Why aren’t you willing to see how this plays about before declaring it a 2nd Afghanistan? Trump is negotiating from strength because if this fails he’s already told Putin that he’ll impose 50% tariffs on India if it purchases oil from Russia. It’s sounding like they’ve made progress today with a good first start.
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Fellating Putin isn’t negotiating from strength. It is quite the opposite. MAGA may be gullible chumps, but Putin isn’t. He embarrassed us today, and he knows it.
 
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Trump is negotiating from strength because if this fails he’s already told Putin that he’ll impose 50% tariffs on India if it purchases oil from Russia.
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Are you serious, dude? If Trump was negotiating from strength, he would take the Russians' frozen assets and use it to rebuild Ukraine. If Trump wanted to be hard on Putin, he would take action against Russia. Going after India if Putin doesn't do what he wants is punk ass beta bitch shit. Probably why you like it.

It's astounding that you can look at this administration and think things are going great.
 
Ramrouser said:
You guys here really comfort yourselves saying MAGA is a cult. What a lazy take. I’m critical of Trump when I disagree with him. I just happen to think he’s done a great job these first 6 months.
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I guess it's remedial education time again. A cult isn't defined by the willingness to speak out against the cult leader. It's defined by the willingness to accept the reality the cult leader imposes on the flock. The fact that you think he's done a great job is evidence of the cult. You prostrate yourself before him so willingly that you can't tell up from down.
 
Say what you want about trump, but the guy is high energy. No one else in the world could have gotten the deal that he just didn’t get.

Really though this week has once again been so fucking bad for the media in general. “What’s gonna happennnn!!???”

Fucking nothing happened. People have got to stop buying into the showman.
 
Ramrouser said:
You guys here really comfort yourselves saying MAGA is a cult. What a lazy take. I’m critical of Trump when I disagree with him. I just happen to think he’s done a great job these first 6 months.

Why aren’t you willing to see how this plays about before declaring it a 2nd Afghanistan? Trump is negotiating from strength because if this fails he’s already told Putin that he’ll impose 50% tariffs on India if it purchases oil from Russia. It’s sounding like they’ve made progress today with a good first start.
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Hey, for the record, I personally don’t think you’re in a cult! I just think that you seem like the kind of guy who has spent his entire life feeling like he’s weak and insecure, and so you latch onto men who you think project the kind of strength and command that you’ve never been able to yourself- hence your constant non-ironic referrals to Trump as “alpha.” No man who feels confident and secure or happy with themselves talks about other men the way you do with Donald Trump.
 
Kraftyheel89 said:
I officially lose all respect and will not converse with anyone that responds to Ramrouser. I have not been more ashamed as an American since J6.
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Seems a bit extreme. There are lurkers who read the board who might benefit from rebuttals to his bullshit. And also I like to teach, and sometimes when I'm in a grumpy mood, teaching is what helps.

I mean, you and I -- most people on the board -- are allies, right? We don't agree on everything, and maybe after Trump we will disagree on a lot more stuff. What will not be forgotten is your decency, sincerity and commitment to ideals over expedience.
 
superrific said:
Are you serious, dude? If Trump was negotiating from strength, he would take the Russians' frozen assets and use it to rebuild Ukraine. If Trump wanted to be hard on Putin, he would take action against Russia. Going after India if Putin doesn't do what he wants is punk ass beta bitch shit. Probably why you like it.

It's astounding that you can look at this administration and think things are going great.
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The NCAA was negotiating from such a position of strength against Kentucky that it decided to impose penalties on Cleveland St.

Hat tip to Jerry Tarkanian.
 
superrific said:
Seems a bit extreme. There are lurkers who read the board who might benefit from rebuttals to his bullshit. And also I like to teach, and sometimes when I'm in a grumpy mood, teaching is what helps.

I mean, you and I -- most people on the board -- are allies, right? We don't agree on everything, and maybe after Trump we will disagree on a lot more stuff. What will not be forgotten is your decency, sincerity and commitment to ideals over expedience.
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He’s just imposing secondary sanctions on Ramrouser.
 
The only political cult I’ve witnessed in my life was Obama 2008-2010 - “I’m the One you’ve been waiting for.”

“Obama walks into a room and you want to follow him somewhere, anywhere.” George Clooney

“I’ll collect paper cups off the ground to make Obama’s pathway clear.” “I’ll do whatever he says.” Halle Berry

“Thrill up my leg.” Chris Matthews

“Many spiritually advanced people I know identify Obama as a Lightworker, that rare kind of attended being who can actually help usher in a new way of being on the planet.” Mark Morford San Francisco Chronicle

“The Power of Obama’s Hand.” “He uses touch to control and console simultaneously.” Politico

“Many women - not too surprisingly - were dreaming about sex with the president.” “Those of us who like to point out that the Emperor has no clothes now have to worry that when we do, we may give rise to a new round of lurid cougar fantasies.” Judith Warner New York Times

“This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.” Obama on winning the Dem nomination
 
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