It is utter bullshit that we can't afford to continue to support Ukraine. We could amp support up by multiples of 3 or 4 times the current levels if we wanted. We are sending 30-40 Billion to Ukraine annually. Our annual defense budget alone is 20 to 30 times that size. It is quite arguable that money spent for Ukraine to continue to degrade Russia is the best spent money of our entire national defense.
Both of these statements are false. We absolutely can "afford" to foot the bill. You'd just prefer we give handouts to Elon.
The end game is:
Good summary. Except number 1 needs to Be "Thank orangeturd for his world excellence"
The Russians have a centuries old history of attacking and annexing other countries. And it is not just ancient history. Stalin attacked Finland right before the start of WWII and took about 50% of its territory. The Fins hate the Russians. Also, with Hitler’s acquiescence, he annexed the Baltic States. Russia lost vast amounts of territory after the Soviet Union split up. Putin has, with his invasion of Ukraine, started a process of regaining much (if not all) of that territory. Ukraine is just the start. Anyone who doesn’t see that is ignorant about European history. He will not stop until he is stopped by force. This isn’t just about Ukraine, this is about the fate of all Europe. So, you trumpers who are applauding your POS , heed my warning; if Putin is not stopped now, the price to stop him will just get higher and higher. It’s like Clemenza’s line in The Godfather. “You got to stop them in the beginning. Like they should have stopped Hitler at Munich. They should have never let him get away with that. They were just asking for big trouble.”
So more war? More lives lost? You think Russia would just stand by and be slowly weakened?
It really is so unfathomable that so many Americans simply…..got bored….of being the strongest, most powerful, most economically prosperous, most influential nation in the world, and decided to elect the only person in the history of the nation who ran for president on an explicit platform of dismantling and destroying it all. Every other empire that I can think of in the history of the world declined because they were usurped by outside forces. Ours did it voluntarily.
Trump was described as an isolationist in The Art of the Deal.
Yes. But now they don’t need to because Putin has his stooge in the White House who will voluntarily do what Putin never could have, destroy the 80 year old western alliance.
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+1000. That GOP argument is just total bullshit. We've crippled Russia at virtually no cost to ourselves beyond sending them weapons that we can definitely afford, and in the process have prevented Putin from attacking other former Soviet states (and make no mistake, if he had conquered Ukraine easily he would have done so by now). Putin was in bad shape until Trump was elected, but now he has someone in the Oval Office who is quite literally on his side and is helping him to achieve his goals - goals that he likely could not have achieved had Trump not been elected. That's the bottom line, and it's one that Republicans want to do anything but discuss. Hence the diversions to Obama, Biden, false claims that we could not have continued military support for Ukraine, attacks on Zelensky instead of Putin, etc.
To paraphrase David Brooks, the receding roar of white privilege has driven many white Americans insane. And for anyone who wants to mention Trump's minority support, roughly 85% of Trump's vote in 2024 came from white Americans, not minorities. Make no mistake, MAGA is still very much a white person's movement.
Support Ukraine as long as they want to fight. Don't pretend for one second that you care about the lives of Russians and the Ukrainians want to fight for their own homeland. I don't think Russia will just be slowly weakened. I know it. We've seen it for 3 years.