SCOTUS Catch-all | Majority Minority districts unconstitutional racial gerrymander

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Ramrouser said:
2026 = 4 more additional seats in FL (too late to redistrict other Southern states due to primary dates).

2028 = 10-12 additional seats under SC’s ruling today.

2032 = 8-10 additional seats under 2030 census.

Harvard/Harris poll shows the parties are tied. Although the Real Clear Politics average is Dems +5.2%
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LOL. Boy are you going to be disappointed.

I'm telling you now what will happen so that you don't start screaming voter fraud when your guys get their faces wiped across a sandpaper floor. Americans hate Trump. They hate the war. They hate ICE. They hate the tariffs. By very large majorities in each case.

Trump's approval rating is in the 30s and is still falling. Your party cannot win elections like that, especially since you refuse to stand up to your guy in any way. Every single Republican in the Senate is on record as voting for this war. Good luck with that.

Then in 2028, Americans are going to be ready to end this shit show and it's going to be another 2008 landslide. And then all your shenanigans will stop. And the fact that you are bragging about your gerrymandering means that you will deserve every bit of what will be coming. It will be an extinction level event for the GOP, to quote a GOP strategist.
 
superrific said:
LOL. Boy are you going to be disappointed.

I'm telling you now what will happen so that you don't start screaming voter fraud when your guys get their faces wiped across a sandpaper floor. Americans hate Trump. They hate the war. They hate ICE. They hate the tariffs. By very large majorities in each case.

Trump's approval rating is in the 30s and is still falling. Your party cannot win elections like that, especially since you refuse to stand up to your guy in any way. Every single Republican in the Senate is on record as voting for this war. Good luck with that.

Then in 2028, Americans are going to be ready to end this shit show and it's going to be another 2008 landslide. And then all your shenanigans will stop. And the fact that you are bragging about your gerrymandering means that you will deserve every bit of what will be coming. It will be an extinction level event for the GOP, to quote a GOP strategist.
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Fully anticipating a 15 to 20 seat loss. I even said so the day after the 2024 election.

Things look much better for Rs in 2028 and beyond due to the Court's ruling today and the census. Plus, conservatives are still having children as compared to liberals so the far off future looks bright as well.

Why would I want to stand up to trump for this war when I support what he's doing? Blockade is working as it is intended and Iran has no way to fight back.
 
I read an article a while back that said if Democratic states are willing to give up on drawing minority majority districts this could actually benefit them - it would suck because it probably means less black representation in Congress but it doesn't necessarily mean less Democrats overall
 
Ramrouser said:
Fully anticipating a 15 to 20 seat loss. I even said so the day after the 2024 election.

Things look much better for Rs in 2028 and beyond due to the Court's ruling today and the census. Plus, conservatives are still having children as compared to liberals so the far off future looks bright as well.

Why would I want to stand up to trump for this war when I support what he's doing? Blockade is working as it is intended and Iran has no way to fight back.
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1. The blockade is working as intended? You said last week Iran was going to crumble in two days. The strait still ain't open. Gas prices are going through the roof and inflation is going to spiral out of control this summer. The US doesn't have any meaningful goals even articulated to accomplish, so basically we're spending $1B a day jacking off in the Indian Ocean.

2. The fact that you support this shit show is exactly my point. You guys have no ability to think critically. You just follow your dear leader. For instance, remember when you were so outraged about the embarrassing exit from Afghanistan. Do you remember any European leaders talking about us getting humiliated? That's because we weren't, not from that retreat. But what Iran is doing is humiliating. They are posting AI memes of Trump and he can't do a damn thing about it.

I mean, I don't want to take credit for a point that has already been made millions of times.

3. And boy are you going to be surprised when you find out that the majority of American do not have shit for brains like you GOPers.
 
superrific said:
The US doesn't have any meaningful goals even articulated to accomplish, so basically we're spending $1B a day jacking off in the Indian Ocean.
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That seems like a meaningful goal to me but I think it can be accomplished much cheaper than that...
 
Trump is a bully. He only takes military action against countries that can't fight back militarily. He was completely unprepared for this level of resistance from Iran, especially their control of the Strait of Hormuz. You don't ignore and insult your allies, then expect them to run to bail you out of the mess you created. His efforts at negotiating a diplomatic solution with Iran are just as inept here as they have been with the war in Ukraine. Then again, what do you expect when Vance and Kushner are your A Team?
 
GoHeelsweeeehoooo said:
I read an article a while back that said if Democratic states are willing to give up on drawing minority majority districts this could actually benefit them - it would suck because it probably means less black representation in Congress but it doesn't necessarily mean less Democrats overall
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This is correct. Republicans are happy to help Democrats shove as many black people as they can into a Congressional district. Democrats call it ensuring minority representation when they like it and unconscionable gerrymandering when they figure out it means less total Democrats in office.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
Democrats call it ensuring minority representation when they like it and unconscionable gerrymandering when they figure out it means less total Democrats in office.
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This is not remotely true. Democrats have known that racial representation has the potential to hurt them. They wrote the statute in full knowledge of that potential. It was debated on the House floor, IIRC.

Democrats have surely known this since the Shaw v. Reno case about the I-85 district that snaked along a highway for a while.

You are conflating two different issues. One is whether legislators should be able to choose their own voters. I say no. I'd love to hear your argument as to why gerrymandering is good. But anyway, the issue in the VRA is whether minorities should get representation in Congress ever, or if states can draw districts so that only white people win.
 
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