SCOTUS Catch-all | Majority Minority districts unconstitutional racial gerrymander

[superrific]

2026 = 4 more additional seats in FL (too late to redistrict other Southern states due to primary dates).

2028 = 10-12 additional seats under SC’s ruling today.

2032 = 8-10 additional seats under 2030 census.

Harvard/Harris poll shows the parties are tied. Although the Real Clear Politics average is Dems +5.2%

LOL. Boy are you going to be disappointed.

I'm telling you now what will happen so that you don't start screaming voter fraud when your guys get their faces wiped across a sandpaper floor. Americans hate Trump. They hate the war. They hate ICE. They hate the tariffs. By very large majorities in each case.

Trump's approval rating is in the 30s and is still falling. Your party cannot win elections like that, especially since you refuse to stand up to your guy in any way. Every single Republican in the Senate is on record as voting for this war. Good luck with that.

Then in 2028, Americans are going to be ready to end this shit show and it's going to be another 2008 landslide. And then all your shenanigans will stop. And the fact that you are bragging about your gerrymandering means that you will deserve every bit of what will be coming. It will be an extinction level event for the GOP, to quote a GOP strategist.

 

[Ramrouser]

LOL. Boy are you going to be disappointed.

I'm telling you now what will happen so that you don't start screaming voter fraud when your guys get their faces wiped across a sandpaper floor. Americans hate Trump. They hate the war. They hate ICE. They hate the tariffs. By very large majorities in each case.

Trump's approval rating is in the 30s and is still falling. Your party cannot win elections like that, especially since you refuse to stand up to your guy in any way. Every single Republican in the Senate is on record as voting for this war. Good luck with that.

Then in 2028, Americans are going to be ready to end this shit show and it's going to be another 2008 landslide. And then all your shenanigans will stop. And the fact that you are bragging about your gerrymandering means that you will deserve every bit of what will be coming. It will be an extinction level event for the GOP, to quote a GOP strategist.

Fully anticipating a 15 to 20 seat loss. I even said so the day after the 2024 election.

Things look much better for Rs in 2028 and beyond due to the Court's ruling today and the census. Plus, conservatives are still having children as compared to liberals so the far off future looks bright as well.

Why would I want to stand up to trump for this war when I support what he's doing? Blockade is working as it is intended and Iran has no way to fight back.

 

[GoHeelsweeeehoooo]

I read an article a while back that said if Democratic states are willing to give up on drawing minority majority districts this could actually benefit them - it would suck because it probably means less black representation in Congress but it doesn't necessarily mean less Democrats overall

 

[superrific]

Fully anticipating a 15 to 20 seat loss. I even said so the day after the 2024 election.

Things look much better for Rs in 2028 and beyond due to the Court's ruling today and the census. Plus, conservatives are still having children as compared to liberals so the far off future looks bright as well.

Why would I want to stand up to trump for this war when I support what he's doing? Blockade is working as it is intended and Iran has no way to fight back.

1. The blockade is working as intended? You said last week Iran was going to crumble in two days. The strait still ain't open. Gas prices are going through the roof and inflation is going to spiral out of control this summer. The US doesn't have any meaningful goals even articulated to accomplish, so basically we're spending $1B a day jacking off in the Indian Ocean.

2. The fact that you support this shit show is exactly my point. You guys have no ability to think critically. You just follow your dear leader. For instance, remember when you were so outraged about the embarrassing exit from Afghanistan. Do you remember any European leaders talking about us getting humiliated? That's because we weren't, not from that retreat. But what Iran is doing is humiliating. They are posting AI memes of Trump and he can't do a damn thing about it.

I mean, I don't want to take credit for a point that has already been made millions of times.

3. And boy are you going to be surprised when you find out that the majority of American do not have shit for brains like you GOPers.

 

[hedge]

The US doesn't have any meaningful goals even articulated to accomplish, so basically we're spending $1B a day jacking off in the Indian Ocean.

That seems like a meaningful goal to me but I think it can be accomplished much cheaper than that...

 

[superrific]

Iran has no way to fight back.

Gee, why might anyone conclude that the GOP is full of rapists?

 

[EyeballKid]

SCOTUS seems poised to send a few hundred thousand Haitians to their deaths, siding with Trump/Miller to end TPS.

 

[mynameisbond]

Trump is a bully. He only takes military action against countries that can't fight back militarily. He was completely unprepared for this level of resistance from Iran, especially their control of the Strait of Hormuz. You don't ignore and insult your allies, then expect them to run to bail you out of the mess you created. His efforts at negotiating a diplomatic solution with Iran are just as inept here as they have been with the war in Ukraine. Then again, what do you expect when Vance and Kushner are your A Team?

 

[gtyellowjacket]

I read an article a while back that said if Democratic states are willing to give up on drawing minority majority districts this could actually benefit them - it would suck because it probably means less black representation in Congress but it doesn't necessarily mean less Democrats overall

This is correct. Republicans are happy to help Democrats shove as many black people as they can into a Congressional district. Democrats call it ensuring minority representation when they like it and unconscionable gerrymandering when they figure out it means less total Democrats in office.

 

[nycfan]

 

[superrific]

Democrats call it ensuring minority representation when they like it and unconscionable gerrymandering when they figure out it means less total Democrats in office.

This is not remotely true. Democrats have known that racial representation has the potential to hurt them. They wrote the statute in full knowledge of that potential. It was debated on the House floor, IIRC.

Democrats have surely known this since the Shaw v. Reno case about the I-85 district that snaked along a highway for a while.

You are conflating two different issues. One is whether legislators should be able to choose their own voters. I say no. I'd love to hear your argument as to why gerrymandering is good. But anyway, the issue in the VRA is whether minorities should get representation in Congress ever, or if states can draw districts so that only white people win.

 

[gtyellowjacket]

I read an article a while back that said if Democratic states are willing to give up on drawing minority majority districts this could actually benefit them - it would suck because it probably means less black representation in Congress but it doesn't necessarily mean less Democrats overall

Was this the article by any chance? It does show positives and negatives of creating black districts.

New maps spark debate over majority-minority districts

Lawmakers in several states are debating precisely how many Black voters are needed in a legislative district to ensure they can elect the representative they want.

www.pbs.org

"Still, the shift toward unpacking districts is likely to lead to turnover in legislatures and Congress. In North Carolina, a new GOP-approved map cut the share of Black voters in Democratic Rep. G.K Butterfield's district from 45% to 38%. The nine-term African American congressman announced his resignation this month and called the new map "racially gerrymandered."

At the other extreme, Democrats filed a lawsuit this month alleging that Alabama Republicans improperly packed Black voters into the state's 7th Congressional District, making it home to nearly one out of every three African Americans in the state.

One quarter of Alabama's population is Black, but the 7th is the sole district represented by an African American in Congress, Rep. Terri Sewell. It is also the only Democratic-held district in the state. A more even distribution of Black voters, Democrats argue, might help then win a second."

 

[CFordUNC]

Fully anticipating a 15 to 20 seat loss. I even said so the day after the 2024 election.

Things look much better for Rs in 2028 and beyond due to the Court's ruling today and the census. Plus, conservatives are still having children as compared to liberals so the far off future looks bright as well.

Why would I want to stand up to trump for this war when I support what he's doing? Blockade is working as it is intended and Iran has no way to fight back.

A 15-20 seat loss? My brother in Christ, it may well be double that or beyond. A 15-20 seat loss might well be ‘moral victory’ territory. You guys are going to get prison raped at the ballot box this fall. The economy is a total wreck. Consumer sentiment is at all time lows. Gas prices are barreling toward all-time highs. Farmers are getting crushed. The price of food and groceries will continue to skyrocket. There are going to be seats in play that would’ve been previously unheard of.

The blockade is working and Iran has no way to fight back, huh? Yeah, see how long Trump can hold out when gas goes past $5 and $6 and beyond. You think Americans hated inflation under the Biden administration? They’re going to make that anger seem like child’s play when everyone is paying $80-100 every time they fill their tank.

The thing that I love about you posting here is that quite literally- not figuratively- but quite literally everything you ever post here turns out to be completely the opposite of what unfolds in reality.

 

[Delta74]

It maybe opens doors for that redistricting, but not necessarily. SCOTUS has produced another incoherent opinion that nobody can decipher. I certainly don't know what the fuck they are doing and neither, apparently, does the majority.

It is a clown show par excellence.

Super, any insight or n what’s taking so long for the court to give an opinion on Lisa Cook?

 

[nycfan]

 

[superrific]

Super, any insight or n what’s taking so long for the court to give an opinion on Lisa Cook?

No idea really. I would guess that the conservatives are trying to figure out how to keep the unitary executive theory alive while still protecting Lisa Cook.

Also, I think they wanted to crank out this Louisiana case because, you know, political advantage for their team.

 

[Duke Mu]

Trump is a bully. He only takes military action against countries that can't fight back militarily. He was completely unprepared for this level of resistance from Iran, especially their control of the Strait of Hormuz. You don't ignore and insult your allies, then expect them to run to bail you out of the mess you created. His efforts at negotiating a diplomatic solution with Iran are just as inept here as they have been with the war in Ukraine. Then again, what do you expect when Vance and Kushner are your A Team?

It took Obama and capable diplomats years to hammer out a plan with Iran to effectively limit nuke developing by Iran...with accountability. How in the world could Kushner make a deal, especially without naturally leveraging massive corruption? The Persians have a 4000 year history of fighting empires or fighting as an empire. They are still p*ssed off that they were caught with their pants down after fighting the Byzantine Empire in the 600s, allowing the Arab Muslims to conquer their land. Trump thought he could win the strategic Long Game against a nation that holds a grudge for a millennium and a half!

Trump has been absolutely clowned in this asymmetrical war.