Somebody tell me about Satan

05C40 said:
Assuming we are talking about the same entity, there was a six season, 93 episode TV documentary--on Netflix--about Satan. Apparently Satan prefers to be called Lucifer. This documentary really portrayed him in a different light than the typical religious depictions. Seemed like a pretty chill guy, not really evil so much as mischievous. That said, he really had some "Daddy" issues that took him a long time to work through. In the end, all it took was the love of good woman for him to discover his true path/purpose.
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93 episodes? Satan gets around!
 
If you are also curious about Judas, I highly recommend Bart Ehrman's book, "The Lost Gospel of Judas Iscariot"...

A misunderstood disciple who did not actually betray Jesus but carried out his duty as the catalyst for Jesus' martyrdom.
 
heelinhell said:
A misunderstood disciple who did not actually betray Jesus but carried out his duty as the catalyst for Jesus' martyrdom.
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Yeah, I've always wondered why Judas gets a bad rap. Jesus said the purpose of his life was to die a martyr and thus forgive everyone their sins. In order for that plan to work, someone had to make him a martyr. How can it be a sin -- let alone a mortal one -- to help God execute The Plan?
 
heelinhell said:
If you are also curious about Judas, I highly recommend Bart Ehrman's book, "The Lost Gospel of Judas Iscariot"...

A misunderstood disciple who did not actually betray Jesus but carried out his duty as the catalyst for Jesus' martyrdom.
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05C40 said:
Assuming we are talking about the same entity, there was a six season, 93 episode TV documentary--on Netflix--about Satan. Apparently Satan prefers to be called Lucifer. This documentary really portrayed him in a different light than the typical religious depictions. Seemed like a pretty chill guy, not really evil so much as mischievous. That said, he really had some "Daddy" issues that took him a long time to work through. In the end, all it took was the love of good woman for him to discover his true path/purpose.
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If you like silly, not-terribly-deep but fun tv shows, Lucifer is a great watch.

(Although season 6 isn't the greatest and, honestly, the end of season 5 might be the better place to stop watching.)
 
OGtruthhurts said:
How did jesus die if he came back to life? Religions are pure insanity.
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He was replaced by a clone because Mary was artificially inseminated by aliens. Yes, it was a Virgin Birth. When he was 12, he was taken away for training and all his memories were transferred to his clones. After he was crucified, he was replaced. That's why he wasn't recognized immediately on the road to Emmaus because his body movements were so different.
 
CFordUNC said:
The concept of Satan and Hell as a place of enternal damnation in a lake of fire and brimstone is perhaps the largest scam in the history of humanity.
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Not sure if you're talking about a scam as in just convincing people of hell to cause fear and obedience is a scam or a scam as in convincing people that it's what the Bible teaches. Either way you're right. The Bible is clear that the lake of fire is where souls go to be destroyed, not tortured.
 
SnoopRob said:
Where did Jesus say this?
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Many times, right? I mean, I gave an extremely paraphrased version and also the word martyr was definitely not the right choice. I should have said that Jesus recognized his fate as a necessary part of God's plan. I suppose Jesus could have just given himself up like Luke to Vader and the Emperor, but still someone had to execute him and it seems weird to call that person evil when he's playing a necessary role in the plan to save humanity.

I suppose people have viewed it as a self-selection theory. Yes, someone had to kill Jesus. But in a world of good people and bad people, it would be the bad people who would jump at the chance and thus they reveal their evil even though they are doing what is necessary. Still, I find it odd and counter-intuitive.
 
CFordUNC said:
Ugh. Absolutely true. I've still got PTSD from being raised in the (no pun intended) hell that is the Southern Baptist church.
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Right. You sound like my wife (Free Methodist). Note I said easier, not better.

I've always been a bigger fan of the more positive approach that is represented by Santa. In fact, when I moved from New York to teach, my son was still very young, like believe-in-Santa young. So I told him that one great thing about our new location is that it had a Summer Toy Monkey who would bring toys to good boys during the summer. I only got small toys -- the point was more the excitement of magically getting toys in exchange only for good behavior. It worked. He adjusted very well to the new environment and came to really like the area, and his behavior was good too.
 
superrific said:
Right. You sound like my wife (Free Methodist). Note I said easier, not better.

I've always been a bigger fan of the more positive approach that is represented by Santa. In fact, when I moved from New York to teach, my son was still very young, like believe-in-Santa young. So I told him that one great thing about our new location is that it had a Summer Toy Monkey who would bring toys to good boys during the summer. I only got small toys -- the point was more the excitement of magically getting toys in exchange only for good behavior. It worked. He adjusted very well to the new environment and came to really like the area, and his behavior was good too.
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According to some Orthodox traditions Santa punched Arius in the face over a point of theology.
 
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