Tariffs Catch-All

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superrific said:
It's kind of hard for Trump to declare April 2 to be "LIBERATION DAY" and then back down from the tariffs.

Reciprocal tariffs on cars would still hit European imports
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Not sure if you are serious here Super. This is the same group that called J6 a day of love, and a normal tour day.

The same fraud con man that not only intentionally stole classified docs, hid them after his lawyer signed off that everything was returned, and called it all lawfare and weaponization of DOJ.

His cult is seriously lacking in logic and critical thought. They support him no matter how obvious it is what a lying fraud and criminal he is.
 
www.theglobeandmail.com

Globe editorial: The tariff move that Donald Trump can’t counter

Buy Canadian sentiment is a groundswell response to the tariff threats from the U.S. president
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It is fast becoming a common, even communal, experience for Canadians: picking up a product in the grocery store, scrutinizing the fine print on its label – and then putting it back on the shelf once the words “Made in the U.S.A” are spotted.

Ottawa and the provinces have all rolled out their own responses to U.S. President Donald Trump’s tariff threats and annexationist bluster. Some of those responses (like Ontario Premier Doug Ford’s move to slap a 25-per-cent levy on electricity exports to the United States) were withdrawn after Mr. Trump threatened to retaliate.

But Canadians have had a counter-tariff response of their own – at the check-out counter – that will be all but impossible to counter. Mr. Trump and his supporters are about to find out just how deeply upset Canadians are by his trade war and talk of turning this country into the 51st state.

The early indications are that Canadian consumers are more than willing to put their money where their patriotism is. According to a Globe business story this week, cross-border travel is falling sharply: Statistics Canada data show that Canadians made 1.2 million fewer round-trip visits to the United States in February, a 23-per-cent drop from February, 2024. CNN reported this week that Maine hoteliers are seeing big drops in summer bookings, some as much as 90 per cent.

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis tried to mock the idea of maple-leaf tourism boycott earlier this month, saying 3.3 million Canadians had visited his state. “That’s not much of a boycott in my book,” he said.

We agree, Governor – because the number you cite was from 2024, before a U.S. President launched a trade war against his country’s biggest trading partner and closest ally. Mr. DeSantis’ misplaced braggadocio actually served to underscore the vulnerability of his state to a Canuck exodus.

If that happens (and here’s hoping), there won’t be much that Mr. DeSantis or Mr. Trump will be able to do about it. The individual choices of millions of Canadians can’t be targeted with countervailing duties.
 
Trump to announce new auto tariffs at 4pm today.

Can anyone actually keep track of his all over the map and flying by the fat seat of his pants tariff policies?

How is this different than existing tariffs against other countries? How is it different than reciprocal tariffs of 4/2?

Are these add on tariffs, unique tariffs? It's not reinstating the tariffs he gave 3 U.S. auto manufacturers a 30 day delay. That has already passed or is about to.

What a cluster-fuck
 
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Kraftyheel89 said:
Not sure if you are serious here Super. This is the same group that called J6 a day of love, and a normal tour day.
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It's not the lying that I was referring to. It was the abject weakness. If you brag and brag about liberation, and then liberation day comes and nothing really happens, you look weak as fuck and senile.
 
I'm so sick of media reports or articles saying things like, "the auto tariffs could encourage auto companies to set up more factories in the United States."

No. No car maker is going to locate factory production in the US because of Trump's tariffs. Maybe they would if they knew the tariffs would be there for a long time (maybe!) -- you know, if it was passed by law. But not just an executive determination. Especially from an idiot who reverses himself every couple of days.

If car makers are having trouble selling cars in the US because of tariffs, what will happen is they will sell their cars elsewhere.
 
Actually, on Faux News last night, Gingrich was claiming $3 Trillion on new factory investments announced and attributed it all to the Tariffs. Of course Hannity said to listen up to that great man because he gave us 5 great years of balanced budgets. Ummm, Clinton and tax hikes also, maybe?

Did you not see Trump with Hyundai Exec just this week announcing a "new" $3 Billion investment in USA? I wonder how many years that has been in the works and what period of time the investment is made. Of course Trump was touting it as thousands of new great paying jobs for Muricans all because of his Tariffs.
 
Kraftyheel89 said:
Actually, on Faux News last night, Gingrich was claiming $3 Trillion on new factory investments announced and attributed it all to the Tariffs. Of course Hannity said to listen up to that great man because he gave us 5 great years of balanced budgets. Ummm, Clinton and tax hikes also, maybe?

Did you not see Trump with Hyundai Exec just this week announcing a "new" $3 Billion investment in USA? I wonder how many years that has been in the works and what period of time the investment is made. Of course Trump was touting it as thousands of new great paying jobs for Muricans all because of his Tariffs.
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3 trillion? Seriously? That was the claim? He actually claimed that? 3 trillion?

Hyundai has its own reasons for investing in the US. It's a Korean company. The South Korean government is afraid of pissing off the US and losing that alliance, as they would be fucked. I suppose Trump might say, "see how well my style works!" and though I'd have to concede that it might work to some degree with Korea, I'd respond, "you've sold America's soul and our long-term prosperity for $3B?"
 


It was a relatively modest skid unless you are an automaker …

Separately, the Trump Administration appears to be collecting a random assortment of proposed tariff cuts from individual countries as the price for being excluded from the “Liberation Day” reciprocal tariffs, though some of the tariffs reported are on products that the USA doesn’t actually export or even produce much. TBD when some actual details are released.
 
superrific said:
I'm so sick of media reports or articles saying things like, "the auto tariffs could encourage auto companies to set up more factories in the United States."

No. No car maker is going to locate factory production in the US because of Trump's tariffs. Maybe they would if they knew the tariffs would be there for a long time (maybe!) -- you know, if it was passed by law. But not just an executive determination. Especially from an idiot who reverses himself every couple of days.

If car makers are having trouble selling cars in the US because of tariffs, what will happen is they will sell their cars elsewhere.
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Yes, they looked at setting up more factories, the cost of building, the cost of labor, and the time to build make it prohibitive.

Imagine that, FORD can't drop $10 billion on a new factory to be operational in time for the 2026 models to be produced there.
 
Kraftyheel89 said:
Actually, on Faux News last night, Gingrich was claiming $3 Trillion on new factory investments announced and attributed it all to the Tariffs. Of course Hannity said to listen up to that great man because he gave us 5 great years of balanced budgets. Ummm, Clinton and tax hikes also, maybe?

Did you not see Trump with Hyundai Exec just this week announcing a "new" $3 Billion investment in USA? I wonder how many years that has been in the works and what period of time the investment is made. Of course Trump was touting it as thousands of new great paying jobs for Muricans all because of his Tariffs.
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Wait Hannity always claimed we have not had balanced budgets in 50 years, when did this change?

These are not new plans, the company doesn't plan in a vacuum like that. This has been in the works for years.

Additionally, with AI and all the other technological advances, how many jobs will this create? Enough to get manufacturing from 7% of the workforce back to the hay day of 30%????

Even then average salaries in software services is typically 20% higher.

Not that I am against good manufacturing jobs, I am not, but it's not the savior some seem to believe.
 
UNCatTech said:
That's great for Ford, they can raise prices and still be less that Toyota.
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Unless the definition of American-made excludes cars with substantial components manufactured abroad. Usually these country of origin determinations are complex, tricky and require a lot of attention to detail. The administration has trouble with basic things like don't plan wars over chats. What makes you believe they could do a country of origin designation that makes any sense?
 

“… It wasn’t clear when those tariffs would be effective, or whether they would extend to auto parts, which Trump’s trade team had considered exempting from tariffs in recent days.

… The president also reiterated a campaign pledge to juice auto demand, saying that he was working with House Speaker Mike Johnson to pass a policy that would allow consumers to deduct car interest payments from their income taxes for American-made cars. …”
 
nycfan said:
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So, fuck the average American with tariffs, but if his Tech Bro friend can purchase Tic Tok at a good price, he'll think about reducing taxes on China. Wow.

Must make the farmers that the government is going to have to bail out feel good.
 
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