Terror in Charlotte

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I think many posters are conflating ICE and CBP. Charlotte's Web was a CBP operation, which is strange because Charlotte is nowhere near a border (although I would support special enforcement operations to keep South Carolinians out.)

ICE will continue normal operations in Charlotte and throughout the country, but the CBP special operations (Midway Blitz, Charlotte’s Web, Swamp Sweep) is the traveling circus that moved from Chicago to Charlotte to New Orleans.

I believe they had multiple reasons for deploying CBP in these operations. Certainly they want to terrorize and traumatize the immigrant population. They think it will encourage traumatized immigrants to self-deport. I think they are using CBP because they have been unable to scale up ICE quickly enough. I also think they are trying to normalize the idea of masked paramilitary units roaming the streets of the US, while erasing the notion of probable cause to detain people. I read somewhere that they made 600 arrests in Chicago and only 16 had criminal records. I believe the primary goal of all of this thuggery is to inure the American public to “secret police” operations and testing the limits of how far they can push American to accept trampling their rights.
 
farce© said:
I think many posters are conflating ICE and CBP. Charlotte's Web was a CBP operation, which is strange because Charlotte is nowhere near a border (although I would support special enforcement operations to keep South Carolinians out.)

ICE will continue normal operations in Charlotte and throughout the country, but the CBP special operations (Midway Blitz, Charlotte’s Web, Swamp Sweep) is the traveling circus that moved from Chicago to Charlotte to New Orleans.

I believe they had multiple reasons for deploying CBP in these operations. Certainly they want to terrorize and traumatize the immigrant population. They think it will encourage traumatized immigrants to self-deport. I think they are using CBP because they have been unable to scale up ICE quickly enough. I also think they are trying to normalize the idea of masked paramilitary units roaming the streets of the US, while erasing the notion of probable cause to detain people. I read somewhere that they made 600 arrests in Chicago and only 16 had criminal records. I believe the primary goal of all of this thuggery is to inure the American public to “secret police” operations and testing the limits of how far they can push American to accept trampling their rights.
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Yep. And at some point if they don't face enough resistance to at least make them think twice, they'll start going after native-born citizens who are critical of Dear Leader in the same way - thuggery, bullying, and intimidation.
 
farce© said:
I think many posters are conflating ICE and CBP. Charlotte's Web was a CBP operation, which is strange because Charlotte is nowhere near a border (although I would support special enforcement operations to keep South Carolinians out.)

ICE will continue normal operations in Charlotte and throughout the country, but the CBP special operations (Midway Blitz, Charlotte’s Web, Swamp Sweep) is the traveling circus that moved from Chicago to Charlotte to New Orleans.

I believe they had multiple reasons for deploying CBP in these operations. Certainly they want to terrorize and traumatize the immigrant population. They think it will encourage traumatized immigrants to self-deport. I think they are using CBP because they have been unable to scale up ICE quickly enough. I also think they are trying to normalize the idea of masked paramilitary units roaming the streets of the US, while erasing the notion of probable cause to detain people. I read somewhere that they made 600 arrests in Chicago and only 16 had criminal records. I believe the primary goal of all of this thuggery is to inure the American public to “secret police” operations and testing the limits of how far they can push American to accept trampling their rights.
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Yeah, of the ~250 people who were arrested in the Charlotte operation, I am sure that only a small percentage had criminal records. And Bovino (it was either Bovino or a spokesperson or both) mentioned a number of crimes that the people arrested were allegedly convicted of that were not deportable offenses.

Bovino also made a statement along the lines of, “You may not know it, but those people [referring to immigrants] hanging up those Christmas lights at your house could be violent criminals. No one wants violent criminals around their home.” Such a stupid fucking comment. Couldn’t that apply to any person who comes to your home to do work? Not just immigrants? In fact it’s much more likely that a U.S. citizen who comes to your home to do some type of job has been convicted of a violent crime than it is for an immigrant because, not only do U.S. citizens commit violent crimes at a higher rate than immigrants, but if an immigrant who is not a naturalized citizen commits a violent crime, they are likely getting deported. A U.S. citizen, on the other hand, will still be in this country and in our communities once they are done with any term of imprisonment.

This operation had the opposite effect of what they claimed it would have. During the last week, we saw an increase in assaults, kidnappings, and property damage. And it was the immigrants were the victims, not the perpetrators.
 
farce© said:
I think many posters are conflating ICE and CBP. Charlotte's Web was a CBP operation, which is strange because Charlotte is nowhere near a border (although I would support special enforcement operations to keep South Carolinians out.)

ICE will continue normal operations in Charlotte and throughout the country, but the CBP special operations (Midway Blitz, Charlotte’s Web, Swamp Sweep) is the traveling circus that moved from Chicago to Charlotte to New Orleans.

I believe they had multiple reasons for deploying CBP in these operations. Certainly they want to terrorize and traumatize the immigrant population. They think it will encourage traumatized immigrants to self-deport. I think they are using CBP because they have been unable to scale up ICE quickly enough. I also think they are trying to normalize the idea of masked paramilitary units roaming the streets of the US, while erasing the notion of probable cause to detain people. I read somewhere that they made 600 arrests in Chicago and only 16 had criminal records. I believe the primary goal of all of this thuggery is to inure the American public to “secret police” operations and testing the limits of how far they can push American to accept trampling their rights.
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I regularly use ICE to refer to the entire federal immigration enforcement apparatus and it is true that CBP seems to be the worst of the lot.
 
aGDevil2k said:
The damage this is doing to kids is insane
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One of my students is biracial and knows he could easily pass as Hispanic. He doesn't have his license yet so has no ID for proof of citizenship. He passed out in class because he hasn't slept in 4 days worrying about getting caught up in all of this. Most of our Hispanic kids stayed home.
 
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