keywestheel
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I despise all organized religions.
Terrorist attack in Sydney
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PandemicBlue
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Guns have existed in the country for a looong time. Why don't you ask and answer what about our society has changed which has led to the same percentage of guns per population committing so many more murders?
A gun is no more deadly today than it was 100 years ago. The people willing to pick that gun up and use it what has increased. Who and why is that? A gun has a trigger. Why? Without a major malfunction, it needs somebody to pull it to fire.
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PandemicBlue
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Don't ask me what would take a book to answer. You have lived long enough, have a brain, and can see the picture that history, and current events, has painted for you. All you have to do is be willing to look at it and be honest with yourself.
Batt Boy
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I do that all the time with MAGA and their evil followers.
theel4life
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Been saying this my entire adult life. Organized religion is evil.
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The answer is both self-evident and too complicated to be explained succinctly?
That's how you know it's bullshit.
You're a beastly, prejudiced fool and you make the world around you worse. I've no time for you.
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Mulberry Heel
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Immigrants to America are less likely to commit crimes than native-born citizens, and several studies, including one from the right-leaning, libertarian think tank The Cato Institute, indicate this. To quote from the 2024 article linked below:
"During the current presidential campaign, the vitriol has been intense. Just in the last few months, former President Donald Trump has spoken of immigrants as criminals and mentally ill people who are "poisoning the blood of our country." Florida Gov. (and former presidential candidate) Ron DeSantis said migrants suspected of carrying drugs across the border should be shot, without specifying how drug smugglers could be told apart from other migrants.
However, research indicates that immigrants commit less crimes than U.S.-born people.
Some of the most extensive research comes from Stanford University. Economist Ran Abramitzky found that since the 1960s, immigrants are 60% less likely to be incarcerated than U.S.-born people.
There is also state level research, that shows similar results: researchers at the CATO Institute, a libertarian think tank, looked into Texas in 2019. They found that undocumented immigrants were 37.1% less likely to be convicted of a crime.
Beyond incarceration rates, research also shows that there is no correlation between undocumented people and a rise in crime. Recent investigations by The New York Times and The Marshall Project found that between 2007 and 2016, there was no link between undocumented immigrants and a rise in violent or property crime in those communities.
The reason for this gap in criminal behavior might have to do with stability and achievement. The Stanford study concludes that first-generation male immigrants traditionally do better than U.S-.born men who didn't finish high school, which is the group most likely to be incarcerated in the U.S."
Link: https://www.npr.org/2024/03/08/1237...it-crimes-than-us-born-americans-studies-find
"During the current presidential campaign, the vitriol has been intense. Just in the last few months, former President Donald Trump has spoken of immigrants as criminals and mentally ill people who are "poisoning the blood of our country." Florida Gov. (and former presidential candidate) Ron DeSantis said migrants suspected of carrying drugs across the border should be shot, without specifying how drug smugglers could be told apart from other migrants.
However, research indicates that immigrants commit less crimes than U.S.-born people.
Some of the most extensive research comes from Stanford University. Economist Ran Abramitzky found that since the 1960s, immigrants are 60% less likely to be incarcerated than U.S.-born people.
There is also state level research, that shows similar results: researchers at the CATO Institute, a libertarian think tank, looked into Texas in 2019. They found that undocumented immigrants were 37.1% less likely to be convicted of a crime.
Beyond incarceration rates, research also shows that there is no correlation between undocumented people and a rise in crime. Recent investigations by The New York Times and The Marshall Project found that between 2007 and 2016, there was no link between undocumented immigrants and a rise in violent or property crime in those communities.
The reason for this gap in criminal behavior might have to do with stability and achievement. The Stanford study concludes that first-generation male immigrants traditionally do better than U.S-.born men who didn't finish high school, which is the group most likely to be incarcerated in the U.S."
Link: https://www.npr.org/2024/03/08/1237...it-crimes-than-us-born-americans-studies-find
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1moretimeagain
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The US murder rate was substantially higher 100 years ago than it is today.
Duke Mu
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We had an assault weapons ban from 1994 - 2004 that worked and passed constitutional muster.
It did not ban guns for self-protection, hunting, etc. Since then mass shootings have skyrocketed, although total gun-related murders are down (despite a COVID/post-COVID) bump up. The mechanisms are different.
We didn't have mass shootings by 1 psycho 100 years ago.
Duke Mu
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That is true, although we has fewer mass shootings. Again, the mechanisms are different and require different public policy parameters and solutions.
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The idea that there are the same percentage of guns per capita is so laughably false that you'd have to be stone cold dumb to believe it to be true.
"While the population has grown, the rate of firearm production and imports has grown even faster. In 1960, approximately 1,130 firearms were produced for every 100,000 people; by 2021, that figure had skyrocketed to over 7,000 firearms per 100,000 people."
Firearms are produced at 7 times the rate per capita now as compared to 60 years ago.
Moreover, since firearms are not a consumable product and people keep them for decades, the rise in numbers of guns in circulation is even more dramatic than that. We currently have about 1.2 firearms for every human in the country. In another decade, that will be 1.5. 20 years from now, that will be 2 guns for every human.
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I think it can be reasonable to discuss why individuals within certain groups are more prone to terrorism and the best ways to address it. Just like we are trying to address an upsurge in White Supremacist type terrorism today.
The US did a fairly good job of addressing white supremacist type terrorism in the 50's and 60's, and leftwing terrorism in the 60's and 70's. We didn't do it by hiding our head in the sand and hoping it would go away. That doesn't mean we should label whole groups as terrorists either.
The US did a fairly good job of addressing white supremacist type terrorism in the 50's and 60's, and leftwing terrorism in the 60's and 70's. We didn't do it by hiding our head in the sand and hoping it would go away. That doesn't mean we should label whole groups as terrorists either.
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Since y'all are rushing to note the religion of the attackers, I figured you would want to update your post that the hero is also Muslim.
gtyellowjacket
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Lols. Snoop with his name calling. So much easier for him when he only had to read things he agreed with.
keywestheel
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Are you like 12 years old? I know this board makes you feel important, but off the high horse.
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You just did...and I don't disagree.
The US government really didn't do a good job with the white supremacy thing (20s, 50s, 60s) until RFK Jr. stood up to Gov. Wallace... and a few years later the Civil Rights Act. White Nationalism never completely went away and has been worse in the last 10 years.
The thing about anti-semitism, is that it seems to be an EO hate. Muslims, Germans, white Christian nationalists. Get in line. Bibi has actually fed the hate. He wants it to stay in office.
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Hit dog hollers.